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| Feb 23 10:01:30 <smurfd>hey | |
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| Feb 23 10:02:34 <jpr>a couple more minutes and we'll start | |
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| Feb 23 10:02:47 <seb128>hi | |
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| Feb 23 10:03:01 <rodo>hi all | |
| Feb 23 10:03:21 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:03:23 <jpr>lets rolls | |
| Feb 23 10:03:26 <jpr>roll even | |
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| Feb 23 10:03:51 <jpr>2.1 development status | |
| Feb 23 10:04:13 <jpr>as you no, hard code freeze on monday | |
| Feb 23 10:04:23 <jpr>we need approval for 2.2.0 after that | |
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| Feb 23 10:04:46 <jpr>at that time we'll tag the gnome-2-10 branch | |
| Feb 23 10:05:05 <jpr>and HEAD will become 2.2.1 on which bug fixing should begin immediately | |
| Feb 23 10:05:33 <jpr>2.2.1 will ship 2-3 weeks after 2.2.0 | |
| Feb 23 10:06:06 <jpr>are there any bugs that aren't marked as showstoppers that really should be? | |
| Feb 23 10:06:35 <jpr>if any thinks of any | |
| Feb 23 10:06:35 <dobey>should the drag and drop to trash be a showstopper? | |
| Feb 23 10:06:38 <jpr>bump them up | |
| Feb 23 10:06:43 <jpr>dobey: what number is that? | |
| Feb 23 10:06:52 <dobey>don't know, i'll have to find it | |
| Feb 23 10:06:55 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:07:05 <jpr>it doesn't sound like it | |
| Feb 23 10:07:06 <fejj>well, I'd say not | |
| Feb 23 10:07:09 <jpr>unless its a regression | |
| Feb 23 10:07:11 <fejj>because it isn't a regression | |
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| Feb 23 10:07:16 <dobey>it is a regression | |
| Feb 23 10:07:20 <dobey>1.4 lets you drag to trash | |
| Feb 23 10:07:29 <jpr>and does 2.0? | |
| Feb 23 10:07:40 <dobey>no, 2.0 doesn't | |
| Feb 23 10:07:54 <jpr>still not a showstopper then | |
| Feb 23 10:08:10 <jpr>moving on | |
| Feb 23 10:08:18 <jpr>reminder we are in patch review mode | |
| Feb 23 10:08:37 <jpr>and all that involves | |
| Feb 23 10:08:40 <jpr>finally | |
| Feb 23 10:08:47 <jpr>2.0.4 went out | |
| Feb 23 10:09:10 <jpr>that will be the last release in that series unless something truly critical shows up | |
| Feb 23 10:09:21 <jpr>like "it eats all my mail" | |
| Feb 23 10:09:23 <jpr>or something | |
| Feb 23 10:09:41 <jpr>status reports | |
| Feb 23 10:09:49 <jpr>dobey: go | |
| Feb 23 10:10:15 <dobey>all my patches are in now, working on getting the list of UI items for 2.3/2.4 together | |
| Feb 23 10:10:42 <dobey>will probably make some patches for a few of them today, and look at new calendar widget possibilities | |
| Feb 23 10:10:44 <jpr>dobey: are all 2.1 product design/ui design change bugs punted now? | |
| Feb 23 10:10:54 <dobey>almost | |
| Feb 23 10:11:13 <jpr>i take it you'll work through the rest of the list? | |
| Feb 23 10:11:16 <dobey>there are a couple that i don't believe pd needs to give input for | |
| Feb 23 10:11:17 <dobey>yeah | |
| Feb 23 10:11:40 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:11:44 <jpr>fejj: ? | |
| Feb 23 10:12:09 <fejj>mostly reviewed notzed patches and looked at a few small issues | |
| Feb 23 10:12:52 <fejj>looking at charset stuff for displayed messages in the preview pane now | |
| Feb 23 10:13:07 <fejj>apparently we don't override the subject charset but we do for the others | |
| Feb 23 10:13:25 <fejj>so should have a patch for that today | |
| Feb 23 10:13:32 <jpr>is this cantona's 7bit issue? | |
| Feb 23 10:13:36 <fejj>no | |
| Feb 23 10:13:52 <jpr>what about the thunderbird work around for parsing broken OE6 encoded words? | |
| Feb 23 10:14:17 <fejj>http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=62109 | |
| Feb 23 10:14:28 <fejj>I thought we were waiting until 2.3 for that | |
| Feb 23 10:14:49 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:15:07 <jpr>hpj: status? | |
| Feb 23 10:15:08 <fejj>if not, I can cook up a patch :) | |
| Feb 23 10:15:19 <hpj>let's see | |
| Feb 23 10:15:35 <jpr>fejj: well, it would be interesting to see how big it is i guess | |
| Feb 23 10:15:42 <fejj>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:15:45 <hpj>i posted the patch for e-passwords move | |
| Feb 23 10:15:47 <fejj>I can do that today too | |
| Feb 23 10:15:47 <jpr>its hard for me personally to judge the riskiness though | |
| Feb 23 10:15:55 <jpr>i leave that to you and notzed | |
| Feb 23 10:16:04 <hpj>it still needs a few more approvals | |
| Feb 23 10:16:07 <jpr>hpj: from? | |
| Feb 23 10:16:27 <fejj>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:16:30 <hpj>jpr: you on a few minor things (e-util and something else, i forget) | |
| Feb 23 10:16:35 <hpj>jpr: and someone on libedataserverui | |
| Feb 23 10:16:48 <jpr>hmm | |
| Feb 23 10:16:57 <jpr>ownership isn't really clear on libedataserver/ui | |
| Feb 23 10:17:14 <hpj>i'm also halfway through a full rebuild on OS X | |
| Feb 23 10:17:20 <hpj>that's true | |
| Feb 23 10:17:36 <hpj>maybe we need a list of owners for everything | |
| Feb 23 10:17:44 <siva>hpj, i look at e-auth-util too | |
| Feb 23 10:17:47 <jpr>i don't want to get too detailed | |
| Feb 23 10:17:47 <siva>it looks good | |
| Feb 23 10:17:57 <jpr>if you are an e-d-s maintainer | |
| Feb 23 10:17:57 <siva>probably my response did not indicate | |
| Feb 23 10:18:04 <hpj>i've been talking with the Fink maintainers | |
| Feb 23 10:18:05 <jpr>you can approve for those bits | |
| Feb 23 10:18:19 <hpj>and they think evolution 2.2 in unstable will take a few weeks to happen | |
| Feb 23 10:18:50 <hpj>so i'm going for the "binaries tarball" solution in the meantime, and indeed until evolution 2.2 can go into stable, which may require on the order of months | |
| Feb 23 10:19:20 <hpj>it might even be possible to make a real OS X installer | |
| Feb 23 10:19:32 <hpj>and put icons in the right places, etc. | |
| Feb 23 10:19:36 <hpj>that's what i want to do ideally | |
| Feb 23 10:19:42 <hpj>ok, that was last week | |
| Feb 23 10:20:26 <hpj>the rest of this week i'll be working on the limits API that we discussed, that other shortcoming of e-name-selector that slips my mind right now | |
| Feb 23 10:20:32 <hpj>and continuing the OS X build | |
| Feb 23 10:20:37 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:20:53 <jpr>rodo: status? | |
| Feb 23 10:21:30 <rodo>bugfixing (few crashes, rendering), reviewing of sun a11y patches | |
| Feb 23 10:21:41 <jpr>how is RTL looking? | |
| Feb 23 10:22:12 <rodo>wroked also on rtl keymap/widget direction, not ready yet, but hope to have it ready before monday | |
| Feb 23 10:22:35 <rodo>rtl is usable from what I heard | |
| Feb 23 10:23:20 <jpr>cool | |
| Feb 23 10:23:24 <jpr>siva: status? | |
| Feb 23 10:23:35 <rodo>so I will finish the direction thing and continue bugfixing for next week | |
| Feb 23 10:23:39 <siva>jpr, bug fixing we are left with 6 more major ones , some of them can be looked at only after 2.2 (like contact list server support for ldap etc) | |
| Feb 23 10:24:22 <jpr>siva: so there are some we should be punting? | |
| Feb 23 10:24:36 <jpr>contact lists on ldap is not a regression right? | |
| Feb 23 10:24:50 <siva>jpr, no, we can look them in 2.2.x | |
| Feb 23 10:25:11 <jpr>it sounds like some major coding | |
| Feb 23 10:25:17 <jpr>what about the vcard 2.0/3.0 compatibility bugs that remain? | |
| Feb 23 10:25:44 <siva>jpr, they are mostlly done http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=40756 | |
| Feb 23 10:25:48 <siva>that one is remaining | |
| Feb 23 10:25:51 <siva>which is blanket bug | |
| Feb 23 10:25:55 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:26:02 <siva>but one of the dependent bugs has nothing to do with 3.0 | |
| Feb 23 10:26:13 <siva>it just talks about some addtional fields in contact eidtor | |
| Feb 23 10:26:16 <jpr>siva: are we sure about the contact lists on the ldap server? | |
| Feb 23 10:26:21 <jpr>its a very old bug | |
| Feb 23 10:26:30 <jpr>it sounds like a lot of work | |
| Feb 23 10:27:00 <siva>jpr, hmm let me look at to see what needs to be done | |
| Feb 23 10:27:08 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:27:16 <jpr>mmoulderlt: status? | |
| Feb 23 10:27:34 <mmoulderlt>I am writing, currently have a lot of stability issues | |
| Feb 23 10:27:43 <jpr>in what sense? | |
| Feb 23 10:27:48 <jpr>the client is crashing? | |
| Feb 23 10:27:50 <mmoulderlt>I installed an update yesterday afternoon and it broke my groupwise accounts | |
| Feb 23 10:27:53 <mmoulderlt>yep | |
| Feb 23 10:27:58 <jpr>hmm | |
| Feb 23 10:28:06 <mmoulderlt>now I cant even access them, just hangs at loading | |
| Feb 23 10:28:11 <jpr>did you file a bug? | |
| Feb 23 10:28:13 <mmoulderlt>went all night doing that | |
| Feb 23 10:28:27 <mmoulderlt>Yeah I did | |
| Feb 23 10:28:44 <mmoulderlt>I have filed several and it doesn't appear they are getting looked at too much | |
| Feb 23 10:28:45 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:28:49 <jpr>number? | |
| Feb 23 10:28:56 <mmoulderlt>let me check | |
| Feb 23 10:28:58 <jpr>i'll see if it can get looked at soon | |
| Feb 23 10:29:03 <jpr>surf_home: status? | |
| Feb 23 10:29:12 <surf_home>jpr: bug fixing for folder size and offline .. looking to closing in on the offline bugs | |
| Feb 23 10:29:15 <mmoulderlt>72869 | |
| Feb 23 10:29:19 <mmoulderlt>was the last one | |
| Feb 23 10:29:32 <jpr>sush: status? | |
| Feb 23 10:29:48 <sush>fixed some exchange bugs | |
| Feb 23 10:30:00 <jpr>did that community patch related to domain auth get looked at? | |
| Feb 23 10:30:14 <sush>will be sending some more to lists today or tomorrow | |
| Feb 23 10:30:18 <surf_home>jpr: yeah .. i dont thnk it is correct | |
| Feb 23 10:30:28 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:30:29 <surf_home>jpr: i have asked for more info | |
| Feb 23 10:30:36 <siva>mmoulderlt, please keep groupwise keyword for groupwise bugs | |
| Feb 23 10:30:39 <jpr>tml: status? | |
| Feb 23 10:30:55 <siva>mmoulderlt, we need a better stack trace for that one to do anything about that | |
| Feb 23 10:30:56 <tml>right. been working on libbonobo, and then gconf. also had to go back to fix a couple of more problems in orbit2. had to do an own port of popt with a hack to avoid problems with importing variables from a dll. | |
| Feb 23 10:31:28 <tml>started putting the packages that have been ported on the sourceforge site | |
| Feb 23 10:31:52 <jpr>putting them there how? | |
| Feb 23 10:31:57 <tml>yep | |
| Feb 23 10:32:06 <jpr>listing them or tarballs? | |
| Feb 23 10:32:16 <tml>zipfiles actually | |
| Feb 23 10:32:21 <jpr>hehe | |
| Feb 23 10:32:22 <jpr>of course | |
| Feb 23 10:32:30 <jpr>is the dbus work tidied up now? | |
| Feb 23 10:32:50 <tml>mostly yes. need to once again keep up with the changes underneath though... | |
| Feb 23 10:33:06 <jpr>the arch seems to shift rapidly there | |
| Feb 23 10:33:19 <tml>yes, it's kinda moving target | |
| Feb 23 10:33:50 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:34:10 <jpr>gekker: anything for us? | |
| Feb 23 10:34:20 <gekker>no | |
| Feb 23 10:34:42 <jpr>seb128, dhm_home: anything for us? | |
| Feb 23 10:34:52 <dhm_home>(i) Been hacking on porting the addressbook and calendar printing code to use Pango for font handling and rendering, which fixes various i18n issues: cleaned up patches for 69430 (addressbook i18n printing) and 72668 (calendar i18n printing) posted to evolution-patches, and I'm working on a patch for 72815 (ETable i18n printing); have been testing succesfully with japanese and tamil scripts; introduces a requirement on libgnome | |
| Feb 23 10:34:52 <dhm_home>print >= 2.7.0; succesfully emulates existing bugs in old implementation; may have subtle differences in font selection logic but it works. | |
| Feb 23 10:34:58 <dhm_home>(ii) Working on pushing the various 2.0.4 packages as a update for FC3 | |
| Feb 23 10:35:08 <seb128>jpr: not really, that's getting well with the current versions :) | |
| Feb 23 10:35:40 <jpr>dhm_home: you are expecting the printing patches upstream in 2.3 not 2.1/2.2 right? | |
| Feb 23 10:35:57 <jpr>hpj, siva: have the addressbook bits been looked at at all? | |
| Feb 23 10:36:05 <dobey>i think the libgnomeprint >= 2.7 requirement is fine for 2.2 | |
| Feb 23 10:36:10 <jpr>ditto | |
| Feb 23 10:36:13 <dobey>iirc, gtkhtml already requires it | |
| Feb 23 10:36:20 <jpr>i'm talking risk here though | |
| Feb 23 10:36:20 <siva>jpr, no not yet | |
| Feb 23 10:36:32 <dhm_home>jpr: ideally ASAP but if you want to mimimise risk then ok | |
| Feb 23 10:36:40 <dobey>sure, just wanted to clarify that the dependency wasn't part of the risk :) | |
| Feb 23 10:36:52 <dhm_home>I plan to add the patches into the Fedora rawhide updates | |
| Feb 23 10:36:55 <rodo>I think it will be better to include them in 2.1 | |
| Feb 23 10:36:59 <dhm_home>so hopefully get a lot of testing there | |
| Feb 23 10:37:21 <jpr>dhm_home: is there a list of issues this fixes? | |
| Feb 23 10:37:52 <rodo>old gnome print code is not very good and it will give printing to many users who cannot use it till now | |
| Feb 23 10:37:57 <dhm_home>http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=69430 | |
| Feb 23 10:38:09 <dhm_home>http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=72668 | |
| Feb 23 10:38:14 <dhm_home>tp://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=72815 | |
| Feb 23 10:38:18 <dhm_home>But basically... | |
| Feb 23 10:38:32 <rodo>I think there are generally problems with all non-latin languages | |
| Feb 23 10:38:48 <dhm_home>in many scripts, when you print the text only appears as hollow boxes i.e. it's uselessw | |
| Feb 23 10:39:16 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:39:41 <jpr>the module maintainers can decide | |
| Feb 23 10:39:59 <dhm_home>cool | |
| Feb 23 10:40:08 <jpr>cmeadors: anything? | |
| Feb 23 10:40:17 <cmeadors>cmeadors: nope | |
| Feb 23 10:40:34 <rodo>dhm_home: I recommend to Cc module maintainers when you post to e-p list | |
| Feb 23 10:40:44 <dhm_home>rodo: good point, thanks | |
| Feb 23 10:40:51 <jpr>christine: ? | |
| Feb 23 10:41:25 <jpr>anyone else? | |
| Feb 23 10:41:26 <christine>jpr: just catching up from being out and lwe last week. hope to get you the 2.4 stuff by eow (i'll be in and out of work this week) | |
| Feb 23 10:41:33 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:41:59 <jpr>christine: lets start that on e-h | |
| Feb 23 10:42:06 <christine>jpr: ok | |
| Feb 23 10:42:12 <jpr>any other business? | |
| Feb 23 10:42:16 <jpr>oh | |
| Feb 23 10:42:18 <jpr>my status | |
| Feb 23 10:42:19 <dobey>christine and jpr: i have a mail on my laptop which i apparently forgot to send last night, but will send as soon as i get to the office today, about 2.3/2.4 UI bits | |
| Feb 23 10:42:26 <jpr>dobey: ok | |
| Feb 23 10:42:31 <christine>dobey: thats great | |
| Feb 23 10:42:34 <jpr>restoring the startup wizard | |
| Feb 23 10:42:49 <jpr>fixed a bunch of meeting autocompletion issues | |
| Feb 23 10:43:12 <jpr>(easy with no bonobo there) | |
| Feb 23 10:43:21 <jpr>(6bugs in about 50 lines of code) | |
| Feb 23 10:43:37 <jpr>some miscellaneous fixes coming | |
| Feb 23 10:43:59 <jpr>anything else | |
| Feb 23 10:44:00 <jpr>? | |
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| Feb 23 10:45:17 <jpr>ok | |
| Feb 23 10:45:20 <jpr>thanks everyone | |
| Feb 23 10:45:27 <siva>bye | |
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| Feb 23 10:45:38 <surf_home>bye | |
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| Feb 23 10:45:43 <dhm_home>bye | |
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| Feb 23 10:45:51 <smurfd>later | |
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| Feb 23 10:46:12 <rodo>see you | |
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| Feb 23 10:47:03 <tml>bye | |
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