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Mar 16 09:54:11 <hpj> ah, still time to put on the coffee :)
Mar 16 09:54:33 <jpr> hah
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Mar 16 09:59:27 <jpr> morning guys
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Mar 16 10:00:42 <rodo> hi all
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Mar 16 10:04:50 <pvanhoof> We should create an ics on some website with meeting schedules and alarm notifications :)
Mar 16 10:06:50 <jpr> just waiting on a couple more people
Mar 16 10:06:53 <jpr> then we'll get going
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Mar 16 10:09:05 <bowes> is there an agenda posted anywhere for today?
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Mar 16 10:09:34 <jpr> bowes: e-h
Mar 16 10:10:10 <jpr> ok
Mar 16 10:10:12 <jpr> here we go
Mar 16 10:10:23 <jpr> 2.2.x development status
Mar 16 10:10:44 <jpr> i have 2.2.1 tarballs locally that i will push out today
Mar 16 10:10:59 <jpr> assuming gekker and guenther find no issues when test building
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Mar 16 10:11:09 <jpr> fixes around 40+ bugs
Mar 16 10:11:12 * guenther nods
Mar 16 10:11:38 <jpr> as noted in the email i sent earlier this week
Mar 16 10:12:02 <jpr> all 2.2.x work is now in gnome-2-10 branch on cvs
Mar 16 10:12:17 <gekker> i had to add a #include to a file in the groupwise camel provider to fix some warnings that autobuild doesn't like, but other than that it all built fine
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Mar 16 10:12:29 <jpr> gekker: ah, send that on
Mar 16 10:12:33 <jpr> the main line is now basically for 2.2.x
Mar 16 10:12:37 <jpr> err
Mar 16 10:12:41 <jpr> 2.3/2.4 work
Mar 16 10:12:48 <jpr> but the versioning is not yet updated
Mar 16 10:12:53 <jpr> that will happen later this week
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Mar 16 10:13:12 <jpr> please commit approved 2.2.x patchs to gnome-2-10 and to the mainline
Mar 16 10:13:30 <jpr> other than that see the email for what currently can go into head
Mar 16 10:13:35 <jpr> without my approval
Mar 16 10:13:43 <jpr> the limitations will be lifted shortly
Mar 16 10:13:50 <jpr> reminder
Mar 16 10:14:05 <jpr> string and UI freeze is still in effect for gnome-2-10 branch
Mar 16 10:14:14 <jpr> so please grep for "_(" in your patches
Mar 16 10:14:39 <jpr> reminder to to review http://go-evolution.org/Evo2.4
Mar 16 10:14:43 <jpr> and add your comments
Mar 16 10:15:02 <jpr> got a bit back logged so i haven't made that public yet
Mar 16 10:15:21 <jpr> any questions on any of the above?
Mar 16 10:15:40 <andre> yepp: only *add* comments or am i allowed to edit the text (e.g. the listing of bugs)?
Mar 16 10:15:55 <andre> to go-evolution.org i mean
Mar 16 10:16:10 <pvanhoof> I added a 'patch' in the 'Additional information" column of the "Multiple alarms" section. perhaps the tables need a "patch" column
Mar 16 10:16:10 <jpr> andre: like you did before? ie "see the following relevant bugs"?
Mar 16 10:16:21 <jpr> well
Mar 16 10:16:35 <jpr> we don't want the wiki to track the work flow
Mar 16 10:16:40 <jpr> we have bugzilla for that
Mar 16 10:16:49 <andre> e.g. i'd very much change the list of menu positioning bugs in the wiki
Mar 16 10:17:09 <jpr> andre: i would say add a comment containing the additions
Mar 16 10:17:17 <andre> ok, that's good
Mar 16 10:17:19 <jpr> trying to avoid the wiki as being
Mar 16 10:17:31 <jpr> too much of "we should fix bugs x, y, z"
Mar 16 10:17:38 <andre> yeah
Mar 16 10:17:48 <jpr> just trying to generate some over all goals for 2.4
Mar 16 10:17:56 <jpr> and have tasks/bugs fall out of that
Mar 16 10:18:06 <jpr> anything else on that?
Mar 16 10:18:19 <jpr> ok
Mar 16 10:18:21 <jpr> status
Mar 16 10:18:25 <jpr> andre: anything for us?
Mar 16 10:18:43 <andre> no, just that only question
Mar 16 10:18:50 <andre> i have already asked
Mar 16 10:19:27 <jpr> ok
Mar 16 10:19:30 <jpr> bowes: anything?
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Mar 16 10:19:50 * dhm wonders if the wiki will become "public" once the log from this meeting goes online
Mar 16 10:20:07 <jpr> dhm: i don't mind people who care enough to read the minutes looking :-)
Mar 16 10:20:08 <bowes> nothing new, but I'd like to start planning calendar backend stuff. so that evo 2.4 can do more than just CalDAV
Mar 16 10:20:27 <jpr> bowes: webdav you mean?
Mar 16 10:20:47 <jpr> gicmo is looking into a caldav backend
Mar 16 10:20:48 <bowes> no, caldav
Mar 16 10:20:52 <jpr> ok
Mar 16 10:21:07 <bowes> but yes, we should be able to handle anything.
Mar 16 10:21:09 <jpr> you might want to talk to gicmo
Mar 16 10:21:12 <bowes> will do
Mar 16 10:21:13 <jpr> well
Mar 16 10:21:22 <jpr> we should make it easier to write backends
Mar 16 10:21:41 <jpr> that are just read/writes of an entire calendar
Mar 16 10:21:57 <jpr> ie file, webdav, gnome-vfs of any type
Mar 16 10:21:58 <jpr> etc
Mar 16 10:22:06 <hpj> note: try to avoid backends calling methods in each other
Mar 16 10:22:11 <jpr> hehe
Mar 16 10:22:14 <hpj> there are some places where that's still happening
Mar 16 10:22:21 <jpr> yah
Mar 16 10:22:25 <jpr> that doesn't need to any more
Mar 16 10:22:29 <jpr> with the caching stuff
Mar 16 10:22:36 <hpj> mm
Mar 16 10:22:49 <hpj> i solved it temporarily on osx by linking those functions statically
Mar 16 10:22:54 <jpr> dhm: anything for us?
Mar 16 10:23:15 <dhm> nothing new
Mar 16 10:23:30 <jpr> dhm: we can get your printing patches looked at now
Mar 16 10:23:31 <jpr> for head
Mar 16 10:23:36 <dhm> cool
Mar 16 10:23:56 <jpr> dhm: 2.2.1 just allows dbus 0.23.4 and below for new-mail-notify
Mar 16 10:24:01 <dhm> there'll be another one for gal for the table view
Mar 16 10:24:02 <jpr> but you can patch that in your build
Mar 16 10:24:06 <dhm> yes
Mar 16 10:24:26 <dhm> so it's a "plesse let me do this, I know what I'm doing" kind of thing
Mar 16 10:24:35 <dhm> if you want to use a later DBus
Mar 16 10:24:41 <jpr> yah
Mar 16 10:24:50 <jpr> until we figure what else to do
Mar 16 10:24:57 * dhm wonders if that is going to be a pain for jhbuild
Mar 16 10:25:05 <dhm> oh well
Mar 16 10:25:06 <jpr> (i'm still willing to take a non-"yuck" patch)
Mar 16 10:25:10 <dhm> :-P
Mar 16 10:25:20 <jpr> :-)
Mar 16 10:25:24 <jpr> dobey: status?
Mar 16 10:25:37 <dobey> i've been kicking ass for product design still :)
Mar 16 10:25:59 <jpr> ok
Mar 16 10:26:03 <dobey> should be able to look at the multi-alarm stuff from pvanhoof a little more today
Mar 16 10:26:04 <jpr> evo related at all?
Mar 16 10:26:19 <jpr> ok cool
Mar 16 10:26:31 <dobey> no, suse 9.3 stuff mostly
Mar 16 10:26:31 <dhm> consolidation of multiple alarms in evolution-alarm-notify IIRC
Mar 16 10:26:32 <pvanhoof> for that the others can take a look at this screenshot: http://www.freax.be/files/alarm-notify-mockup-three.png
Mar 16 10:26:42 <jpr> dobey: any evo related mockups?
Mar 16 10:26:49 <jpr> or user testing plans?
Mar 16 10:27:24 <pvanhoof> dobey, I've noticed today that the snooze and edit buttons are always working.. so it's possible I'll send a fix for that lateron
Mar 16 10:27:28 <dobey> not really, just the mockup i made for the multi-alarm dialog from pvanhoof on monday
Mar 16 10:27:30 <pvanhoof> s/are/aren't
Mar 16 10:27:50 <jpr> dobey: ok, eta on any of that?
Mar 16 10:28:11 <jpr> gekker: anything for us?
Mar 16 10:28:28 <dobey> not other than "as soon as i can get to it", no
Mar 16 10:28:33 <gekker> not today, thanks for a sweet release
Mar 16 10:28:48 <jpr> if a little late in the day :-)
Mar 16 10:28:53 <jpr> guenther: anything for us?
Mar 16 10:28:58 <guenther> Well, I hate to promise me being back to the lists yet again...
Mar 16 10:29:02 <jpr> hehe
Mar 16 10:29:05 <guenther> But I really hope to, soon. I'm already back to IRC and testing builds, at least. :)
Mar 16 10:29:15 <guenther> oh, and meetings of course
Mar 16 10:29:16 <jpr> harish_meet: status?
Mar 16 10:30:21 <jpr> hpj: status?
Mar 16 10:30:30 <hpj> ok
Mar 16 10:30:37 <harish_meet> jpr: gw recurrence work, patch reviews and some defect fixes on mailer/calendar
Mar 16 10:30:44 <hpj> done: moved the e-password strings to e-d-s, fixed cut/copy/paste in composer entries
Mar 16 10:31:21 <jpr> hpj: ok, and moving on to authentication repeating issues?
Mar 16 10:31:24 <hpj> looked at the limits patch ABI breakage ... how about I move the flags field to the bottom of the struct? i don't think anyone's subclassing them yet
Mar 16 10:31:42 <hpj> so struct size shouldn't be a problem
Mar 16 10:31:48 <jpr> most annoying when a contacts server is down
Mar 16 10:32:04 <rodo> hpj: you may close http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=71535 then
Mar 16 10:32:07 <jpr> hpj: what class is that again?
Mar 16 10:32:12 <hpj> right, i'm moving on to fixing authentication dialog hell :)
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Mar 16 10:32:46 <jpr> pvanhoof: anything for us?
Mar 16 10:32:49 <pvanhoof> 1) During hacking up that multi-alarm-notification stuff, I've noticed some non-static gchars being g_strdup()-created and then assigned to a label, but not being freed. It might be possible that there's other locations where it happened. Afaik such strings can be freed right after setting the label, no? 2) I have the i8n fixes for the save-calendar plugin pending, but some here already know that. 3) Of course, the multi-alarm-notifica
Mar 16 10:32:49 <pvanhoof> tion. But I've just read that dobey is going to take a look at this today.
Mar 16 10:32:51 <hpj> jpr: EDestinationStore and ENameSelectorModel
Mar 16 10:32:54 <pvanhoof> :p
Mar 16 10:33:42 <pvanhoof> it where the labels for the end and the start in that alarm-notification dialog
Mar 16 10:33:57 <jpr> ok
Mar 16 10:34:11 <jpr> pvanhoof: maybe valgrind it to confirm the leak?
Mar 16 10:34:27 <jpr> but sounds leakish
Mar 16 10:34:47 <jpr> rodo: status?
Mar 16 10:34:47 <pvanhoof> I looked at the function that created the tring, it was a simple g_strdup_printf (so it should be freed at some point).
Mar 16 10:34:58 <rodo> bugfixing, 3.6.1 release
Mar 16 10:35:01 <hpj> pvanhoof: sounds like a plain old leak
Mar 16 10:35:09 <rodo> cleaned lot of 2.1 bugs
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Mar 16 10:35:25 <jpr> rodo: should we patch 9.3 for the text size issue?
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Mar 16 10:35:42 <rodo> one or two which were not regression rescheduled to 2.3
Mar 16 10:35:58 <pvanhoof> well, it's of course fixed in my patch that makes the dialog multi-alarm aware
Mar 16 10:36:01 <rodo> jpr: we might, the patch is pretty simple
Mar 16 10:36:25 <rodo> jpr: is 2.2.1 what's going to be in 9.3?
Mar 16 10:36:44 <jpr> yes
Mar 16 10:36:51 <jpr> siva: status?
Mar 16 10:36:56 <siva> jpr, misc groupwise, exchange bug fixing
Mar 16 10:37:29 <jpr> tml: status?
Mar 16 10:38:16 <jpr> fejj: status?
Mar 16 10:38:27 <fejj> bug fixing for connector is pretty much it
Mar 16 10:38:47 <jpr> fejj: ok, surf made a couple tweaks to your patch
Mar 16 10:38:58 <jpr> fejj: you might want to update and confirm everything is still ok
Mar 16 10:38:59 <pvanhoof> ah and thanks for the people doing the exchange-connector. I finally got it working with our company owa :)
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Mar 16 10:39:10 <fejj> ok
Mar 16 10:39:39 <jpr> if anyone else has additional major and above fixes that should be considered for 9.3
Mar 16 10:39:41 <jpr> let me know
Mar 16 10:40:03 <gekker> we have until friday morning for 9.3 fixes
Mar 16 10:40:09 <jpr> right
Mar 16 10:40:25 <jpr> gekker: 8am EST?
Mar 16 10:40:37 <chen> jpr, status, bug fixing for groupwise calendar and worked on some bugs in general calendar
Mar 16 10:40:45 <jpr> ok
Mar 16 10:41:01 <gekker> well they have to be submitted by noon, so the sooner i get them the better the chance that i'll ge them in
Mar 16 10:41:07 <jpr> right
Mar 16 10:41:11 <jpr> because we'll need approval
Mar 16 10:41:45 <jpr> anyone have anything else?
Mar 16 10:42:10 <jpr> oh
Mar 16 10:42:12 <jpr> bugzilla move
Mar 16 10:42:18 <jpr> that process has restarted
Mar 16 10:42:30 <jpr> hopefully within a couple of weeks we'll be on ftp.g.o
Mar 16 10:42:32 <jpr> err
Mar 16 10:42:34 <jpr> b.g.o :-)
Mar 16 10:42:38 <fejj> heh
Mar 16 10:42:51 <jpr> ok
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Mar 16 10:42:59 <jpr> ah, in the nick of time
Mar 16 10:43:01 <jpr> tml: status?
Mar 16 10:43:08 <tml> sorry, connection hickup
Mar 16 10:43:31 <tml> still hacking furiously on gtkplug/socket
Mar 16 10:44:11 <jpr> hows that progressing?
Mar 16 10:44:21 <tml> need for various bugfixes in gdk/win32 noticed while working on plug/socket
Mar 16 10:44:49 <jpr> ok
Mar 16 10:45:03 <jpr> patchs being well received for gdk?
Mar 16 10:45:05 <tml> well, testsocket works, more or less, but the enter/leave event generation in the embeded buttons don't fire
Mar 16 10:45:09 <pvanhoof> dobey, I have a new patch ready for the alarm stuff. going to post it in a few minutes
Mar 16 10:45:30 <dobey> ok
Mar 16 10:46:47 <jpr> tml: ok
Mar 16 10:46:51 <jpr> ok
Mar 16 10:46:56 <jpr> thanks everyone
Mar 16 10:47:00 <jpr> see you next week
Mar 16 10:47:12 <tml> as for committing my changes to the gtk side, waiting for owen's approval on the suggesed source file splitups
Mar 16 10:47:23 <jpr> ok
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Mar 16 10:48:59 <hpj> later everyone
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