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| Mar 23 09:55:07 -->You are now talking on #evolution-meet | |
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| Mar 23 09:57:43 <rodo>hi all | |
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| Mar 23 10:00:42 <bowes>I decided to skip class ;) | |
| Mar 23 10:01:12 <jpr>hehe | |
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| Mar 23 10:04:52 <jpr>hi guys, just be a couple of minutes | |
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| Mar 23 10:10:30 <jpr>ok, lets begin | |
| Mar 23 10:10:48 <jpr>2.2.x development status | |
| Mar 23 10:11:05 <jpr>2.2.1 is out | |
| Mar 23 10:11:21 <jpr>so we are headed for 2.2.2 probably in another week or two | |
| Mar 23 10:11:33 <jpr>it will probably line up close to GNOME 2.10.1 | |
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| Mar 23 10:11:37 <rodrigo>hi | |
| Mar 23 10:11:52 <jpr>based on past experience | |
| Mar 23 10:12:08 <jpr>although I haven't seen a schedule for 2.11 or 2.10.x yet | |
| Mar 23 10:12:10 <jpr>has anyone? | |
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| Mar 23 10:12:36 <jpr>i'll take that as a no :-) | |
| Mar 23 10:12:44 <bowes>jpr: there's a WIP one on lgo | |
| Mar 23 10:12:44 <pvanhoof>can't stay very long :-(. I have a meeting at my work in a few minutes too | |
| Mar 23 10:12:53 <bowes>let me get the url for you | |
| Mar 23 10:12:56 <jpr>thanks | |
| Mar 23 10:13:22 <jpr>i've started asking several of you to review bugs that got "stuck" on older milestones | |
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| Mar 23 10:13:39 <jpr>1.4 is almost cleaned up now | |
| Mar 23 10:13:42 <bowes>jpr: http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointEleven | |
| Mar 23 10:14:00 <jpr>2.0.4 will be next | |
| Mar 23 10:14:21 <jpr>any bugs you are working on now should be in or should be moved to 2.2.x milestone | |
| Mar 23 10:14:28 <jpr>or be related to suse 9.3 work | |
| Mar 23 10:15:09 <jpr>reminder that we are still currently in patch review mode as well as string and ui freeze | |
| Mar 23 10:15:14 <jpr>at least for the branch | |
| Mar 23 10:15:21 <jpr>and head is still limited on commits | |
| Mar 23 10:15:44 <jpr>there were some string freeze breakages in the last week that need to get corrected | |
| Mar 23 10:16:20 <jpr>for patch review i'd like to propose that things like test cases and test programs | |
| Mar 23 10:16:26 <jpr>no longer need patch review | |
| Mar 23 10:16:34 <jpr>except during GNOME hard code freeze | |
| Mar 23 10:16:52 <jpr>(for maintainers) | |
| Mar 23 10:17:12 <jpr>like rodo's stress test patch last week | |
| Mar 23 10:17:19 <jpr>does that sound right? | |
| Mar 23 10:17:29 <rodo>yes | |
| Mar 23 10:17:49 <jpr>any objects to that? | |
| Mar 23 10:18:02 <jpr>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:18:26 <fejj>sure | |
| Mar 23 10:18:30 <jpr>anyone have any questions about what exactly they should be working on right now? | |
| Mar 23 10:18:45 <fejj>well, I do. | |
| Mar 23 10:18:53 <fejj>most of the mailer 2.2.x bugs are GW | |
| Mar 23 10:19:04 <fejj>the few that aren't are just weird | |
| Mar 23 10:19:10 <siva>how about doc | |
| Mar 23 10:19:30 <jpr>siva: i think we can add developer docs as an exception as well | |
| Mar 23 10:19:40 <jpr>fejj: ok, lets talk afterwards | |
| Mar 23 10:19:40 <fejj>yea | |
| Mar 23 10:19:43 <siva>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:19:44 <fejj>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:20:06 <rodrigo>we need to add liebedataser* and libedata-* API help | |
| Mar 23 10:20:53 <jpr>in general for people on my team it should be 1) suse 9.3 bugs i bring to you 2) 2.2.x bugs 3) reviewing 1.4, 2.0.4 bugs and getting them off those milestones 4) reviewing, updating the 2.3/2.4 wiki | |
| Mar 23 10:21:01 <jpr>rodrigo: bowes has started on that | |
| Mar 23 10:21:06 <rodrigo>cool | |
| Mar 23 10:21:15 <jpr>moving on | |
| Mar 23 10:21:16 <bowes>because i'm insane! | |
| Mar 23 10:21:35 <rodrigo>bowes: you'll get some beers for free once you've finished :) | |
| Mar 23 10:21:37 <pvanhoof>no, because you must be on drugs | |
| Mar 23 10:21:43 <jpr>don't forget about http://go-evolution.org/Evo2.4 | |
| Mar 23 10:22:41 <jpr>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:22:43 <jpr>status reports | |
| Mar 23 10:22:51 <jpr>tml: you're at the top today :-) | |
| Mar 23 10:23:04 <tml>yeag, i was early... | |
| Mar 23 10:23:33 <tml>some more testing on gconf, some libonoboui progress. | |
| Mar 23 10:23:52 <tml>gtkplug/socket slowly getting more like on x11 | |
| Mar 23 10:23:54 <jpr>i've seen that libbonobui is requiring some gtk fixing | |
| Mar 23 10:24:01 <jpr>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:24:38 <jpr>tml: what are the main remaining issues on gtkplug/socket? | |
| Mar 23 10:25:12 <tml>as far as i can say based on test programs (i.e. not real code), mainly some focus movement issues | |
| Mar 23 10:25:25 <jpr>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:25:31 <jpr>andre: anything for us? | |
| Mar 23 10:25:39 <andre>no | |
| Mar 23 10:25:47 <tml>i.e. sometimes no widget thinks it has focus, some times several (!) think they have it at the same time | |
| Mar 23 10:26:04 <jpr>andre: if you're interested there is a test dump of b.x.c to a b.g.o test server | |
| Mar 23 10:26:21 <jpr>it needs to get checked for correctness | |
| Mar 23 10:26:25 <andre>well, i'm always interested :-) | |
| Mar 23 10:26:46 <jpr>i can dig up the url if you want to take a look | |
| Mar 23 10:26:55 <andre>yeah, would be nice | |
| Mar 23 10:26:55 <jpr>bowes: anything for us? | |
| Mar 23 10:27:13 <bowes>nothing new calendar-wise. but the api docs are moving swiftly | |
| Mar 23 10:27:20 >andre<http://bugzilla-test.gnome.org/ | |
| Mar 23 10:27:20 <dhm_home>jpr: is this all of b.x.c, or just evolution-related components? | |
| Mar 23 10:27:32 <jpr>evolution related | |
| Mar 23 10:27:42 <pvanhoof>ok, gtg. bye :) | |
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| Mar 23 10:27:54 <bowes>it would be nice to have them built regularly, and put on the web somewhere | |
| Mar 23 10:28:01 <jpr>yah | |
| Mar 23 10:28:20 <bowes>i'll send a patch out shortly; besides that, i think there are some doc related files in CVS that don't need to be there | |
| Mar 23 10:28:20 <jpr>afaict the gnome.org website doesn't easily allow for this to happen | |
| Mar 23 10:28:41 <bowes>i'll look into these unneeded files more later | |
| Mar 23 10:28:48 <jpr>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:28:55 <jpr>dhm_home: anything for us? | |
| Mar 23 10:29:05 <dhm_home>not this week | |
| Mar 23 10:30:16 <jpr>i've got one additional patch people will probably want to ship for now | |
| Mar 23 10:30:19 <jpr>for 73844 | |
| Mar 23 10:30:27 <jpr>dobey: anything for us? | |
| Mar 23 10:31:13 <dobey>not really. got an intern starting in a month or so, and talking to parag to get one of the hackers in india to help more with the UI stuff | |
| Mar 23 10:31:29 <jpr>cool | |
| Mar 23 10:31:59 <jpr>dobey: any mockups for evo to show off? | |
| Mar 23 10:32:07 <jpr>fejj: status? | |
| Mar 23 10:32:26 <dobey>not this week. need to make another mock-up for your proposal for the multi-alarm dialog though | |
| Mar 23 10:32:40 <fejj>been fixing bugs that you've been bringing to my attention | |
| Mar 23 10:32:55 <jpr>yah, i sent a small update to the cert patch | |
| Mar 23 10:33:00 <fejj>like the ok | |
| Mar 23 10:33:12 <jpr>the ok? | |
| Mar 23 10:33:23 <fejj>like the imap read bug and the cert thing | |
| Mar 23 10:33:26 <jpr>right | |
| Mar 23 10:33:40 <jpr>the imap read thing is kind of mind boggling | |
| Mar 23 10:33:45 <fejj>yea, started to say something and then said "ok" to your statement :) | |
| Mar 23 10:33:48 <jpr>in that i could really find any bug reports | |
| Mar 23 10:33:53 <jpr>couldn't | |
| Mar 23 10:34:05 <fejj>yea | |
| Mar 23 10:34:31 <jpr>gekker: anything for us? | |
| Mar 23 10:34:35 <gekker>i worked the evolution booth yesterday at brainshare, lots of interest, especially in the evolution-groupwise connectivity | |
| Mar 23 10:34:55 <jpr>cool | |
| Mar 23 10:34:56 <gekker>SUSE 9.3 looks good from an Evolution perspective | |
| Mar 23 10:35:10 <gekker>we'll likely see a release this week | |
| Mar 23 10:35:24 <jpr>will there be one more rc you think? | |
| Mar 23 10:35:33 <jpr>getting this cert patch in would be nice | |
| Mar 23 10:36:00 <gekker>it is still unclear, get me the patch and i'll submit it, then if there is another build it will be there | |
| Mar 23 10:36:26 <jpr>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:36:48 <jpr>me next | |
| Mar 23 10:37:02 <jpr>organizing and writing 9.3 fixes | |
| Mar 23 10:37:07 <jpr>trying to get the release notes out | |
| Mar 23 10:37:13 <jpr>which i will finally send today | |
| Mar 23 10:37:31 <jpr>getting out 2.2.1 | |
| Mar 23 10:37:41 <jpr>meetings (always lots of those) | |
| Mar 23 10:37:42 <jpr>:-) | |
| Mar 23 10:37:46 <fejj>heh | |
| Mar 23 10:37:51 <jpr>started looking at the pilot bugs | |
| Mar 23 10:37:59 <jpr>fejj: maybe you can help out there again | |
| Mar 23 10:38:04 <fejj>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:38:30 <jpr>rickdangerous: not quite sure who you are, but anything for us? | |
| Mar 23 10:38:41 <jpr>rodo: status? | |
| Mar 23 10:39:02 <rodo>bugfixing and reviewing bugs | |
| Mar 23 10:39:30 <jpr>rodo: daved said he had a reproduceable backwards typing problem with 2.2.1.1 | |
| Mar 23 10:39:47 <rodo>eek | |
| Mar 23 10:39:47 <jpr>rodo: i'm assuming gtkhtml 3.6.1 but i'm not sure | |
| Mar 23 10:39:53 <rodo>good that it's reproducible | |
| Mar 23 10:39:58 <jpr>he can't send the message | |
| Mar 23 10:40:09 <jpr>so we need someway to scrub the content i guess | |
| Mar 23 10:40:13 <jpr>while retaining the tags | |
| Mar 23 10:40:24 <rodo>yeah | |
| Mar 23 10:40:25 <jpr>i'd ping him in irc | |
| Mar 23 10:40:37 <jpr>and confirm gtkhtml version and go from there | |
| Mar 23 10:40:43 <rodo>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:40:50 <jpr>rodo: and you're going to review the 2.0.4 milestone bugs, right? | |
| Mar 23 10:41:04 <jpr>for gtkhtml and gnome-spell | |
| Mar 23 10:41:09 <rodo>yeah, already reviewing them | |
| Mar 23 10:41:13 <jpr>ok, cool | |
| Mar 23 10:41:16 <jpr>rodrigo: status? | |
| Mar 23 10:41:28 <rodrigo>bug review, fixing | |
| Mar 23 10:41:40 <rodrigo>1.4/2.0.4 milestone review | |
| Mar 23 10:41:47 <rodo>I plan also to look on public headers cleanup next week | |
| Mar 23 10:42:00 <jpr>rodrigo: any progress on multiple vcalendars loading? | |
| Mar 23 10:42:00 <rodrigo>and working on fixing the recurrences patch, to be committed to HEAd once it's open | |
| Mar 23 10:42:07 <jpr>rodrigo: it would be nice to have that fix in 9.3 | |
| Mar 23 10:42:14 <rodo>looks like there aren't many, mostly some selection, object and engine | |
| Mar 23 10:42:21 <rodrigo>jpr: wasn't looking at it, what bug # is it? | |
| Mar 23 10:42:36 <jpr>you were before vacation i thought | |
| Mar 23 10:42:44 <jpr>i can dig up the number | |
| Mar 23 10:42:46 <rodrigo>yes, some weeks ago iirc | |
| Mar 23 10:42:48 <jpr>70 something | |
| Mar 23 10:42:59 <rodo>plus tokenizer, from which mailer derives it's own search tokenizer | |
| Mar 23 10:43:13 <jpr>for interop with mozilla | |
| Mar 23 10:43:34 <rodrigo>it's in the 2.2.x milestone iirc | |
| Mar 23 10:43:38 <jpr>yah | |
| Mar 23 10:43:42 <jpr>seb128: anything for us? | |
| Mar 23 10:43:46 <rodrigo>will look for it | |
| Mar 23 10:44:56 <seb128>jpr: nothing special, nop | |
| Mar 23 10:45:29 <jpr>no critical downstreamers? | |
| Mar 23 10:45:31 <jpr>dhm_home: ^^^ | |
| Mar 23 10:45:35 <jpr>siva: status? | |
| Mar 23 10:45:41 <siva>jpr, not much this week, fixed few connector bugs and 1.4.x bug review | |
| Mar 23 10:46:12 <seb128>jpr: no, bugzilla is calm for evolution downstream atm :) | |
| Mar 23 10:46:23 <jpr>seb128: thats good :-) | |
| Mar 23 10:46:24 <siva>4 more 1.4.x are remainin for review | |
| Mar 23 10:46:49 <jpr>siva: did you sush, surf find out anything about the exchange sources not being removed on delete/disable? | |
| Mar 23 10:46:57 <jpr>it would be good to fix that for 9.3 if possible | |
| Mar 23 10:47:06 <siva>i will poke them | |
| Mar 23 10:47:12 <jpr>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:47:26 <jpr>anyone have anything else? | |
| Mar 23 10:48:00 <fejj>anyone having translation issues? | |
| Mar 23 10:48:13 <fejj>there's a bug in bugzilla saying a lot of strings are not being translated | |
| Mar 23 10:48:16 <jpr>hmm | |
| Mar 23 10:48:23 <dobey>a lot of strings changed in 2.2 | |
| Mar 23 10:48:26 <jpr>bindtextdomain issues? | |
| Mar 23 10:48:30 <dobey>and probably aren't translated? | |
| Mar 23 10:48:33 <dobey>which bug? | |
| Mar 23 10:48:37 <fejj>thinking more like lack of _() in areas | |
| Mar 23 10:48:43 <fejj>filed under mailer | |
| Mar 23 10:48:46 <fejj>2.2.x | |
| Mar 23 10:48:47 <jpr>hmm | |
| Mar 23 10:48:49 <fejj>forget the number | |
| Mar 23 10:48:56 <andre>dobey: bug 73885 | |
| Mar 23 10:49:08 <dobey>thanks andre | |
| Mar 23 10:49:37 <jpr>oh | |
| Mar 23 10:49:39 <dobey>huh | |
| Mar 23 10:49:40 <jpr>that bug | |
| Mar 23 10:49:44 <dobey>that bug makes no sense | |
| Mar 23 10:49:45 <jpr>that is a dupe in thing | |
| Mar 23 10:49:46 <jpr>think | |
| Mar 23 10:49:53 <jpr>atleast the folder names part | |
| Mar 23 10:49:54 <fejj>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:49:57 <dobey>well | |
| Mar 23 10:50:01 <dobey>the folder names is a bug yeah | |
| Mar 23 10:50:09 <dobey>that custom widget doesn't do things properly | |
| Mar 23 10:50:28 <jpr>we fixed it in one spot iirc | |
| Mar 23 10:50:29 <andre>folder names part is bug 65329, yes (i commented that on bug 73885). | |
| Mar 23 10:50:37 <dobey>and i guess "Receiving Options" just isn't translated | |
| Mar 23 10:50:49 <dobey>and "OK" is "OK" in the greek translation in gtk+ | |
| Mar 23 10:51:11 <jpr>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:51:19 <jpr>anything else? | |
| Mar 23 10:51:30 <andre>dobey: "receiving options" *is* translated here in the german po file, but displayed in english | |
| Mar 23 10:51:57 <fejj>I can take a look at this code | |
| Mar 23 10:52:02 <jpr>ok | |
| Mar 23 10:52:10 <jpr>fejj: be careful of string freeze | |
| Mar 23 10:52:10 <fejj>just wanted a full list of what's not being translated | |
| Mar 23 10:52:17 <fejj>nod | |
| Mar 23 10:52:40 <dobey>oh | |
| Mar 23 10:52:47 <fejj>my guess is that the strings are marked for translation, but the variables are not being wrapped in _() | |
| Mar 23 10:52:49 <dobey>greek isn't 100% either | |
| Mar 23 10:52:55 <dobey>fejj: it's probably a fuzzy string | |
| Mar 23 10:53:09 <dobey>there are 2 fuzzies in evolution, and 1 in e-d-s | |
| Mar 23 10:53:11 <fejj>what's that? | |
| Mar 23 10:53:25 <jpr>i think we can take this over to #evolution | |
| Mar 23 10:53:29 <jpr>thanks all | |
| Mar 23 10:53:30 <dobey>yeah | |
| Mar 23 10:53:32 <jpr>see you next week | |
| Mar 23 10:53:36 <fejj>ok | |
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