| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 6 15:58:30 2005 | |
| Apr 06 15:58:43 <haip>rodrigo, last meeting's minutes on gnome.org is missing. | |
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| Apr 06 15:58:58 <rodrigo>haip: oh, looking | |
| Apr 06 15:59:29 <haip>03-23's minutes link is wrong, too. | |
| Apr 06 16:00:24 -->harish_meet (~harish@202.144.86.147) has joined #evolution-meet | |
| Apr 06 16:00:28 <rodrigo>oh, last week there was no meeting | |
| Apr 06 16:00:39 <rodrigo>but 03-23 is wrong yeah | |
| Apr 06 16:01:29 -->christine (~christine@130.57.22.69) has joined #evolution-meet | |
| Apr 06 16:01:46 <jpr>almost ready to roll | |
| Apr 06 16:01:47 <rodrigo>right, I didn't cvs add'ed it | |
| Apr 06 16:01:49 *jpr finds agenda | |
| Apr 06 16:02:06 <jpr>lets begin | |
| Apr 06 16:02:16 -->sui1 (~Suresh@219.64.141.47) has joined #evolution-meet | |
| Apr 06 16:02:19 <jpr>2.2.x development status | |
| Apr 06 16:02:19 -->chen (~chen@202.144.86.147) has joined #evolution-meet | |
| Apr 06 16:02:25 <jpr>2.2.x development status | |
| Apr 06 16:02:42 <jpr>gnome pushed back the 2.10.1 release a week to monday | |
| Apr 06 16:02:54 <jpr>so i slid a little on the 2.2.2 release | |
| Apr 06 16:03:01 <jpr>i'm going to work on pushing that out today | |
| Apr 06 16:03:16 <jpr>we need to look at taking rodrigo's 70035 fix | |
| Apr 06 16:03:25 <jpr>the fix for "busy" calendars from chen | |
| Apr 06 16:03:47 <jpr>and the scalix patch on memory leaks | |
| Apr 06 16:03:56 <jpr>for calendar attachments | |
| Apr 06 16:04:19 <jpr>plus we need to look at potential memory leak in gtkhtml | |
| Apr 06 16:04:28 <jpr>any other bugs i should be aware of? | |
| Apr 06 16:04:36 <jpr>that we would class as "critical" | |
| Apr 06 16:04:37 <jpr>? | |
| Apr 06 16:04:50 <jpr>ok | |
| Apr 06 16:04:59 <jpr>2.2.3 | |
| Apr 06 16:05:28 <jpr>because 2.2.2 is pushed back a bit, i haven't determined a time for 2.2.3, but | |
| Apr 06 16:05:38 <jpr>it will almost certainly go out | |
| Apr 06 16:05:42 <jpr>before the end of april | |
| Apr 06 16:05:59 <seb128>jpr: dunno how you would consider http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=74087 | |
| Apr 06 16:06:32 <jpr>thats a dupe | |
| Apr 06 16:06:33 <christine>ew | |
| Apr 06 16:06:46 <jpr>seb128: the release notes contained a pointer to a patch for that | |
| Apr 06 16:06:50 <christine>oh good | |
| Apr 06 16:06:52 <jpr>and described the bug | |
| Apr 06 16:06:54 <seb128>oh ? | |
| Apr 06 16:06:59 <seb128>doh, I've not noticed | |
| Apr 06 16:07:02 <seb128>but I want to fix it for hoary | |
| Apr 06 16:07:04 <seb128>ie: today | |
| Apr 06 16:07:06 <jpr>the patch is already in cvs | |
| Apr 06 16:07:09 <seb128>thanks | |
| Apr 06 16:07:09 <harish_meet>jpr: i guess you mean the scalix patch on e-cal.c for cal-attachments..was there anything on the memory leaks ? | |
| Apr 06 16:07:12 *harish_meet checks | |
| Apr 06 16:07:21 <jpr>harish_meet: i believe it fixed leaks as well | |
| Apr 06 16:07:33 <jpr>christine: that was patched in 9.3 before release btw | |
| Apr 06 16:07:36 <jpr>iirc | |
| Apr 06 16:07:40 <christine>ah that one | |
| Apr 06 16:07:50 <christine>i should check | |
| Apr 06 16:08:24 <jpr>moving on | |
| Apr 06 16:08:38 <jpr>usual warning about string and ui freeze still in effect for 2.2.x | |
| Apr 06 16:08:45 <jpr>also | |
| Apr 06 16:09:04 <jpr>bugzilla is going to be moving from bugzilla.ximian.com to bugzilla.gnome.org | |
| Apr 06 16:09:08 <jpr>this saturday | |
| Apr 06 16:09:26 <jpr>basically all bug numbers in changelogs, news, etc | |
| Apr 06 16:09:34 <rodrigo>harish_meet: it had the g_free (mangled_uri) addition, which fixes a leak | |
| Apr 06 16:09:40 <rodrigo>I guess that's what jpr means | |
| Apr 06 16:09:47 <jpr>will have the constant 200000 added to them | |
| Apr 06 16:10:07 <jpr>and b.x.c will be closed down | |
| Apr 06 16:10:14 <harish_meet>rodrigo, yeah.. i was wondering if i had missed a different patch post :-) | |
| Apr 06 16:10:19 <jpr>these are public bugs only | |
| Apr 06 16:10:26 <dhm_home>jpr: will there be any kind of URL redirection? | |
| Apr 06 16:10:36 <jpr>private bugs will stay in b.x.c until we can get them moved to internal bugzilla | |
| Apr 06 16:10:48 <jpr>dhm_home: the products file will get updated for bugzilla | |
| Apr 06 16:11:11 <jpr>and we are looking at what to do about email submissions | |
| Apr 06 16:11:21 <jpr>probably redirect them somehow | |
| Apr 06 16:11:56 <jpr>2.3/2.4 | |
| Apr 06 16:12:26 <jpr>notzed added an architecture section to the wiki | |
| Apr 06 16:12:33 <jpr>for architectural improvements | |
| Apr 06 16:12:46 <jpr>he'll be working on in the 2.4 timeframe | |
| Apr 06 16:13:15 <jpr>still a bit slow getting head open | |
| Apr 06 16:13:20 <jpr>because of e-d-s versioning | |
| Apr 06 16:13:30 <jpr>bascially we are looking to preserve compat with 1.2 | |
| Apr 06 16:13:39 <jpr>and its annoying to do this correctly | |
| Apr 06 16:14:06 <jpr>harish would be interested in any potential api breakages in the 2.4 time frame in e-d-s | |
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| Apr 06 16:14:15 <jpr>that anyone might have | |
| Apr 06 16:14:32 <jpr>thats breakages in the api/abi compat sense | |
| Apr 06 16:14:43 <jpr>not adding new api's | |
| Apr 06 16:14:47 <rodrigo>harish_meet, jpr : if we clean up the libecal API to not use libical externally, that breaks it | |
| Apr 06 16:14:55 <jpr>yes | |
| Apr 06 16:15:02 <harish_meet>rodrigo, yes | |
| Apr 06 16:15:49 <jpr>the alternate is just to bump everything to 1.4 again | |
| Apr 06 16:15:51 <jpr>but this is a pain | |
| Apr 06 16:16:03 <jpr>for snapshots, OO, planner, clock applet, etc | |
| Apr 06 16:16:29 <rodrigo>yeah | |
| Apr 06 16:16:46 <jpr>but also, its only useful if we can maintain bin compat | |
| Apr 06 16:17:15 <jpr>ok | |
| Apr 06 16:17:17 <jpr>status reports | |
| Apr 06 16:17:47 <jpr>andre: anything for us? you've been looking at the test dump of b.x.c i know | |
| Apr 06 16:18:15 <andre>no, nothing. hmm... there are about 170 reports open which targets <2.2 in b.x.c | |
| Apr 06 16:18:20 <harish_meet>rodrigo, we might not be looking at libecal changes in the 2.4 timeframe | |
| Apr 06 16:18:26 <jpr>ah, yes | |
| Apr 06 16:18:29 <rodrigo>harish_meet: ah, ok | |
| Apr 06 16:18:29 <jpr>i wanted to mention that | |
| Apr 06 16:18:43 <jpr>we need to clean up the remaining bugs in the 2.0.4 and 2.1 milestones | |
| Apr 06 16:18:52 <jpr>and either mark them 2.2.x or 2.3 | |
| Apr 06 16:19:31 <jpr>also, hopefully everyone saw andre's keyword proposal on e-h | |
| Apr 06 16:19:41 <jpr>i had never even heard of some of these keywords | |
| Apr 06 16:20:02 <jpr>effective keyword usage will be great going forward | |
| Apr 06 16:20:42 <jpr>andre: the cleanup will happen after the b.g.o move, right? | |
| Apr 06 16:21:01 <andre>yes, that's what the discussion led us to | |
| Apr 06 16:21:07 -->pnayak (~pnayak_te@202.144.86.147) has joined #evolution-meet | |
| Apr 06 16:21:23 <jpr>ok, cool | |
| Apr 06 16:21:42 <jpr>pnayak: we just discussed the move to bugzilla.gnome.org and andre's proposed keyword cleanup | |
| Apr 06 16:21:47 <jpr>bowes: anything for us? | |
| Apr 06 16:22:05 <bowes>jpr: not this week | |
| Apr 06 16:22:09 <jpr>ok | |
| Apr 06 16:22:17 <jpr>chen: status? | |
| Apr 06 16:22:44 <chen>jpr, bug fixing, sent three patches, and wating for approval | |
| Apr 06 16:22:56 <jpr>ok | |
| Apr 06 16:23:00 <jpr>dhm_home: anything for us? | |
| Apr 06 16:23:18 <dhm_home>nothing extra | |
| Apr 06 16:23:24 <jpr>ok | |
| Apr 06 16:23:26 <jpr>dobey: status? | |
| Apr 06 16:23:47 <dobey>working on menus stuff | |
| Apr 06 16:24:00 <dobey>should be able to lay out a full plan later today and send mail about it | |
| Apr 06 16:24:05 <jpr>ok | |
| Apr 06 16:24:18 <jpr>the alarm dialog stuff? | |
| Apr 06 16:24:49 <jpr>fejj: status? | |
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| Apr 06 16:25:15 <dobey>should talk to pvanhoof about that today too, i told him to ping me on irc | |
| Apr 06 16:25:18 <fejj>bug fixing, reviewed patches | |
| Apr 06 16:25:33 <fejj>started going thru unconfirmed bugs in bugzilla | |
| Apr 06 16:25:35 <jpr>dobey: ok, great | |
| Apr 06 16:25:38 <jpr>fejj: ok | |
| Apr 06 16:26:16 <jpr>haip: anything for us? | |
| Apr 06 16:26:20 <haip>nothing special, just bug fixing | |
| Apr 06 16:26:25 <jpr>ok | |
| Apr 06 16:26:29 <jpr>harish_meet: status? | |
| Apr 06 16:26:30 <harish_meet>patch reviews, getting the gw recurrence patch better and getting to know auto tools better :-) | |
| Apr 06 16:26:37 <jpr>hehe | |
| Apr 06 16:26:44 <jpr>auto* isn't always the most fun | |
| Apr 06 16:26:50 <jpr>which reminds me | |
| Apr 06 16:27:02 <jpr>dobey: could you look at ERDI's patch for configure.in? | |
| Apr 06 16:27:07 <jpr>if you have time | |
| Apr 06 16:27:38 <jpr>hpj: status? | |
| Apr 06 16:28:04 <hpj>fixed the name selector part of the "auth dialog snowstorm" issue, and convinced myself the other part of the problem is GW code | |
| Apr 06 16:28:10 <hpj>still pending approval | |
| Apr 06 16:28:25 <hpj>readied OSX build, added spell checking | |
| Apr 06 16:28:33 <dobey>jpr: yeah | |
| Apr 06 16:28:42 <christine>thank you hpj - the snowstorm is driving me nuts :) | |
| Apr 06 16:28:42 <hpj>i should be able to make an OSX release when you're ready | |
| Apr 06 16:29:07 <hpj>christine: :) | |
| Apr 06 16:29:27 <hpj>i've started looking at bugs to move to more recent milestones | |
| Apr 06 16:29:27 <jpr>myself | |
| Apr 06 16:29:31 <jpr>not much hacking | |
| Apr 06 16:29:45 <jpr>mostly preparing release and a snowstorm of meetings | |
| Apr 06 16:30:13 <jpr>pnayak: status? | |
| Apr 06 16:30:36 <pnayak>traiging bugs and non-functional testing | |
| Apr 06 16:30:57 <jpr>ok | |
| Apr 06 16:31:01 <jpr>rodo: status | |
| Apr 06 16:31:02 <jpr>? | |
| Apr 06 16:31:02 <pnayak>closing bugs for which theres is no reply from reporter ( christine :)) | |
| Apr 06 16:31:23 <rodo>finished review of 2.0.4 bugs | |
| Apr 06 16:31:30 <christine>pnayak: ping me later, i could have lost the request | |
| Apr 06 16:31:36 <rodo>reviewed patches from sun guys | |
| Apr 06 16:31:44 <rodo>some bugfixing | |
| Apr 06 16:32:06 <rodo>I have one fix with gtkhtml api addition which I think is worth for 2.2.x | |
| Apr 06 16:32:12 <jpr>pnayak: how long are you waiting before closing? | |
| Apr 06 16:32:36 <rodo>it just adds new gtkhtml command to block setting of primary selection | |
| Apr 06 16:32:46 <pnayak>i have sent mails for few, my plan is to wait for 1 week | |
| Apr 06 16:33:04 <jpr>pnayak: ok | |
| Apr 06 16:33:07 <rodo>which means that gtk_html_command accepts two new commands, so it's not abi addition | |
| Apr 06 16:33:23 <jpr>rodo: ok, harish and i need to talk to you about a possible memory leak as well | |
| Apr 06 16:33:25 <jpr>after this | |
| Apr 06 16:33:28 <rodrigo>rodo: I approved your patch, although was not sure about the API addition | |
| Apr 06 16:33:29 <jpr>rodrigo: status? | |
| Apr 06 16:33:49 <rodo>rodrigo: thanks | |
| Apr 06 16:33:56 <rodrigo>jpr: 2.2.x bug fixing/triaging and patch review | |
| Apr 06 16:34:22 <rodrigo>jpr: btw, there are many 2.2.x bugs related to the task list flickering | |
| Apr 06 16:34:30 <jpr>rodrigo: ok | |
| Apr 06 16:34:40 <jpr>rodrigo: are we really going to be able to fix that in 2.2.x? | |
| Apr 06 16:34:47 <jpr>other than preventing some crashes | |
| Apr 06 16:35:00 <jpr>fix it right that is | |
| Apr 06 16:35:11 <rodrigo>not sure, I've been looking at possible small fixes | |
| Apr 06 16:35:19 <rodrigo>but as you say, the correct fix should go in | |
| Apr 06 16:35:33 <jpr>rodrigo: also 2.1 still has a bunch of calendar bugs on it still | |
| Apr 06 16:35:34 <rodrigo>which is to compare the old query and the new one and remove/add/etc | |
| Apr 06 16:35:43 <rodrigo>jpr: yes, will look at them later | |
| Apr 06 16:36:04 <jpr>seb128: anything for us? | |
| Apr 06 16:37:04 <seb128>nop | |
| Apr 06 16:37:08 <jpr>tml: status? | |
| Apr 06 16:37:29 <tml>hacking on libgnomeui, gnome-vfs, gtkhtml. some glib & gtk+patching | |
| Apr 06 16:37:48 <jpr>ah, cool | |
| Apr 06 16:38:00 <jpr>so bonobo controls are taken care of now? | |
| Apr 06 16:38:00 <rodo>tml: how's gtkhtml on win32? | |
| Apr 06 16:38:06 <rodo>tml: are there any issues? | |
| Apr 06 16:38:25 <tml>can't say yet... nothing major so far | |
| Apr 06 16:38:46 <tml>bonobo controls should be ok | |
| Apr 06 16:39:16 <jpr>ok, great | |
| Apr 06 16:39:41 <jpr>cmeadors: anything for us? | |
| Apr 06 16:40:07 <jpr>christine: anything for us? | |
| Apr 06 16:40:30 <jpr>tml: have you done libsoup or e-d-s yet? | |
| Apr 06 16:40:37 <tml>nope | |
| Apr 06 16:40:45 <christine>will be going thru connnector bugs this week and need to get the 2.4 feature section started for the wiki as we discussed | |
| Apr 06 16:40:46 <tml>would they be easy? | |
| Apr 06 16:40:55 <jpr>tml: dunno :-) | |
| Apr 06 16:41:03 <tml>i'll have a look... | |
| Apr 06 16:41:05 <jpr>tml: libsoup uses giochannel stuff | |
| Apr 06 16:41:45 <jpr>if you can build gtkhtml you should be able to build those | |
| Apr 06 16:41:59 <jpr>ok | |
| Apr 06 16:41:59 <tml>ok | |
| Apr 06 16:42:10 <jpr>ie you are high enough in the stack | |
| Apr 06 16:42:20 <jpr>anyone have anything else they want to cover? | |
| Apr 06 16:44:00 <jpr>ok then | |
| Apr 06 16:44:02 <jpr>:-) | |
| Apr 06 16:44:05 <jpr>thanks everyone | |
| Apr 06 16:44:08 <christine>thx jpr | |
| Apr 06 16:44:10 <jpr>talk to you all next week | |
| Apr 06 16:44:18 <harish_meet>thanks all | |
| Apr 06 16:44:25 <tml>bye all! | |
| Apr 06 16:44:34 <hpj>later | |
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