IRC Team Meeting - April 23, 2008

Apr 23 06:49 <srag> Ok, lets start and finish quickly..

Apr 23 06:49 <srag> First one announcement..

Apr 23 06:49 *srinidhi (~srinidhi@ecoprobe-dmz.gns.novell.com) has joined #evolution-meet

Apr 23 06:49 <srag> some who track the svn commits might have got it already...

Apr 23 06:49 <srag> Sankar would join mbarnes as a mail maintainer

Apr 23 06:50 <srag> so, feel free to ping psankar for any mailer issues/crashers/patch reviews ;-)

Apr 23 06:50 <psankar> Thanks srag. Should be interesting to work with mbarnes

Apr 23 06:50 <psankar> and continue the legacy left by the likes of  NotZed, Fejj and Partha :-)

Apr 23 06:50 <srinidhi> psankar: Congrats!! :)

Apr 23 06:50 <srag> psankar, sure

Apr 23 06:51 <psankar> Thanks srinidhi

Apr 23 06:51 <mcrha> I think I have some work for psankar ... :)

Apr 23 06:51 <srag> I have updated psankar and mbarnes as Camel maintainers too

Apr 23 06:51 <srag> mcrha, now you got a person to review mailer patches...

Apr 23 06:51 <psankar> mcrha, shoot :-)

Apr 23 06:51 *srag relaxes a bit now ;-)

Apr 23 06:52 <mcrha> yeah, some patches to review, psankar, only some patches

Apr 23 06:52 <srinidhi> srag: :)

Apr 23 06:52 <srag> psankar, dont say 'shoot' he will shoot more patches than the speed you can review ;-)

Apr 23 06:52 *jony (~jjohnny@ecoprobe-dmz.gns.novell.com) has joined #evolution-meet

Apr 23 06:52 <srag> psankar, Im already overrun

Apr 23 06:52 <psankar> mcrha, sure thing. will do :-)

Apr 23 06:52 <srag> psankar, so be cautious with mcrha ;-)

Apr 23 06:52 <mcrha> thanks psankar

Apr 23 06:52 <psankar> srag, okay. will be careful :-)

Apr 23 06:52 <mcrha> and thanks srag ;)

Apr 23 06:52 <srag> :)

Apr 23 06:53 <srag> And officially me and psankar are starting our work on disk-summary

Apr 23 06:53 <jony> yay !

Apr 23 06:53 <psankar> Right :-)

Apr 23 06:53 <srag> so, we are prone to break more thing from now on

Apr 23 06:53 <psankar> A task that is delayed for a loooooong time

Apr 23 06:53 <srag> and so don't complain me... blame psankar ;-)

Apr 23 06:53 <jony> hehe

Apr 23 06:53 <srag> I have got a guy for that :)

Apr 23 06:53 *mcrha wants to break something too

Apr 23 06:54 <srag> Ok, really.. You have a nice great task (UAM)

Apr 23 06:54 <srag> you can mcrha :)

Apr 23 06:54 <jony> srag, disk-summary is optional during builds ?

Apr 23 06:54 <psankar> srag, considering that it shoudl bring down memory requirements, people will be happy to let us break things :-)

Apr 23 06:54 <psankar> jony, probably it will be a new branch

Apr 23 06:54 <srag> psankar, already you have a reason to break ;-)

Apr 23 06:54 <jony> psankar, okie

Apr 23 06:54 <mcrha> I will srag, never say twice ;)

Apr 23 06:54 <srag> :)

Apr 23 06:55 <srag> we are still under schedule planning and would say the target release, but surely for 2.23.x :)

Apr 23 06:55 <mcrha> can we do this together with a move from mbox to maildir for local stores?

Apr 23 06:55 <srag> so keep guessing or buy me a coke (Sorry I don't drink beer)

Apr 23 06:55 *psankar as well

Apr 23 06:55 <srag> mcrha, nope. this already has too many things..'

Apr 23 06:55 <psankar> mcrha, they are not related iiuc

Apr 23 06:56 <srag> I would try to keep the focus on memory and we can have people picking up side tasks from there

Apr 23 06:56 <mcrha> I thought a break with other break

Apr 23 06:56 <srag> mcrha, sure. but not part of this...

Apr 23 06:56 <mcrha> same as possible break with large file support and summary non-compatibility when we move to 64bit offsets

Apr 23 06:56 <srag> mcrha,  if you are planning for a work there, just let me know

Apr 23 06:56 <srag> mcrha, that would be kicked off

Apr 23 06:57 <srag> we would go for sqlite db

Apr 23 06:57 <srag> and we don't fopen 2gb files any more

Apr 23 06:57 <psankar> mcrha, so no need to worry of summary file length

Apr 23 06:57 <mcrha> I wrote about that to evo-hackers asking Jeff for best way, but he ddin't answer, somehow

Apr 23 06:57 <srag> that reminds me something, we need to ask for blessed dependency or something like that for sqlite

Apr 23 06:57 <srag> that I will take care

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Apr 23 06:58 <srag> mcrha, oh

Apr 23 06:58 <mcrha> psankar, the problem is the summary has stored 32 bit offsets and if you change offset byte length, then old summary will not work anymore

Apr 23 06:58 <mcrha> for 32 bit systems

Apr 23 06:58 <psankar> srag, may be the cache will still be not distributed for local (like GroupWise and Imap4rev1) so file size might matter at some stage

Apr 23 06:58 <srag> mcrha, psankar offline :)

Apr 23 06:58 <mcrha> sure

Apr 23 06:58 <psankar> srag, okay

Apr 23 06:58 <srag> we can take it after the meeting

Apr 23 06:59 *srag told that 'we will have a short meeting'

Apr 23 06:59 <srag> that is the announcement part

Apr 23 06:59 <srag> we released 2.23.1, our first unstable release

Apr 23 07:00 <srag> things are fine till now, and lets fix our broken things in 2.23.2 (reg composer). I'm sure that mbarnes has that in his prio list

Apr 23 07:00 <srag> psankar, work out with mbarnes for the composer plugin hooks

Apr 23 07:00 <mbarnes> I'm already on it

Apr 23 07:00 <srag> mbarnes, awesome :)

Apr 23 07:00 <psankar> srag, ah okay. I'll pitch in whenever needed

Apr 23 07:00 <srag> thx psankar

Apr 23 07:01 <srag> we are also planning on the line bringing back the windows port (live)

Apr 23 07:01 <srag> some analysis being spent on effort reqd, etc, but not finally decided

Apr 23 07:01 <srag> but we are looking at supporting Evolution on windows.

Apr 23 07:02 <srag> tor did (still doing) awesome on porting the code...

Apr 23 07:02 <srag> but we never spent effort on fixing the issues

Apr 23 07:02 <srag> we would here after. (I will confirm this later and may be announce on the list)

Apr 23 07:02 <srag> but an early information to share with the team :)

Apr 23 07:03 <srag> I'm done, we can go around the channel.

Apr 23 07:03 <srag> jony, anything to share with us ?

Apr 23 07:03 <jony> srag, not much ... just included PF api in servers/mapi

Apr 23 07:03 <srag> jony, cool. Are we getting closer to feature parity with the webdav connector ?

Apr 23 07:04 <srag> if not (%) pending...

Apr 23 07:04 <jony> srag, hmm .. not yet .. probably in a week  we shoud be in a better shape

Apr 23 07:04 <jony> srag, i would rate that at 40 -45  % (in terms of feature / performance )

Apr 23 07:04 <srag> ok

Apr 23 07:04 <jony> also trying to get a mapi-provider build on 2.22 .. but factory is broken ..  so it is getting delayed ..

Apr 23 07:04 <srag> lakhil, anything to share with us ?

Apr 23 07:04 <srag> jony, ok

Apr 23 07:05 <srag> lakhil, any blockers/issues you see ?

Apr 23 07:05 <lakhil> srag,

Apr 23 07:05 <lakhil> did sanity of 2.23.1 and some testing on openSUSE

Apr 23 07:05 <lakhil> groupwise back end is really in bad shape in trunk :(

Apr 23 07:06 <srag> lakhil, oh, any blockers/bugs ?

Apr 23 07:06 <srag> lakhil, any reason you see?

Apr 23 07:06 <lakhil> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523103 - Memory usage / leaks

Apr 23 07:06 *psankar notes it

Apr 23 07:06 <lakhil> and GROUPWISE_DEBUG doesn't work

Apr 23 07:07 <psankar> lakhil, the biggest leak (7MB) in the trace in that bug is alerady fixed

Apr 23 07:07 <psankar> lakhil, I remember committing it a few days back

Apr 23 07:07 <lakhil> psankar, cool ...

Apr 23 07:07 <psankar> lakhil, so that should solve ot

Apr 23 07:07 <psankar> *it

Apr 23 07:07 <lakhil> but i tried 3 days back only

Apr 23 07:08 <srag> gr8

Apr 23 07:08 <srag> mbarnes, anything to share with us ?

Apr 23 07:08 <mbarnes> I'm working on a new EPlugin hook class for GtkUIManager

Apr 23 07:08 <mbarnes> which should eventually replace EMenu/EPopup

Apr 23 07:08 <lakhil> and you forgot to commit to trunk i guess :)

Apr 23 07:08 <mbarnes> I already have the Face plugin working again with it

Apr 23 07:08 <mbarnes> once that's in place, I can begin finally dismantling BonoboUI from Evolution

Apr 23 07:08 <srag> mbarnes, wow

Apr 23 07:08 <schooms> mbarnes: awesome !

Apr 23 07:09 <srag> cool mbarnes

Apr 23 07:09 <srag> don't tell it to andre, he will have a list of bugs (which we said can't fix becoz of bonoboui) ;-)

Apr 23 07:09 <srag> with eplugin

Apr 23 07:09 <mbarnes> all in good time  :)

Apr 23 07:09 <srag> mbarnes, that is really great. great work dude

Apr 23 07:10 <srag> mcrha, anything to share with us ?

Apr 23 07:10 <mcrha> nothing much, srag, just fixed a bug in my gio/gvfs rewrite, and Matt fixed other one too

Apr 23 07:10 <srag> (I know andre reads the logs though)

Apr 23 07:11 <mcrha> otherwise just piling patches to all of you for a review as usual ;)

Apr 23 07:11 <srag> mcrha, cool. I have cced you on a e-d-s deadlock and I have given you a way to reproduce get_default_timezone..

Apr 23 07:11 <srag> yesterday

Apr 23 07:11 <mcrha> I reported in that part a bug few weeks ago

Apr 23 07:12 <mcrha> I was waiting for a help from chen

Apr 23 07:12 <srag> oh ok.

Apr 23 07:12 <srag> chen is on leave full of this week

Apr 23 07:12 <srag> back next week

Apr 23 07:12 <mcrha> yup, I noticed

Apr 23 07:12 <srag> I will be looking for that.. it is a killer

Apr 23 07:12 <srag> psankar, anything to share with us ?

Apr 23 07:13 <psankar> srag, nothing much from me :-)

Apr 23 07:13 *jkerihuel (~jkerihuel@whitefocus.org) has joined #evolution-meet

Apr 23 07:13 <jkerihuel> hi there

Apr 23 07:13 <srag> hey jkerihuel

Apr 23 07:13 <srag> for every one else, jkerihuel  is the maintainer of OpenChange's libmapi

Apr 23 07:14 <srag> schooms, anything to share with us ?

Apr 23 07:14 <schooms> srag: i'm (locally) almost done with getting the mapi-cal code up-to-date.. was working on the restrictions part.. i will try to get that done by this week.. and yeah - fixed chen's break ;-)

Apr 23 07:14 <jony> hi jkerihuel

Apr 23 07:14 <schooms> hey jkerihuel

Apr 23 07:14 <srag> schooms, ok

Apr 23 07:15 <srag> shashish, anything to share with us ?

Apr 23 07:15 <shashish> noting much from me.......worked on address book bug and play around address book code...and working on rules..

Apr 23 07:15 <srag> shashish, cool.

Apr 23 07:15 <srag> srinidhi, anything to share with us ?

Apr 23 07:15 <mcrha> rules?

Apr 23 07:15 <srinidhi> srag: nope.. :)

Apr 23 07:16 <srag> srinidhi, thx for the NEWS files in time as usual

Apr 23 07:16 <srag> mcrha, groupwise server side rules

Apr 23 07:16 <mcrha> ahh, okay

Apr 23 07:16 <srinidhi> srag: anytime.. :)

Apr 23 07:16 <srag> varadhan, anything to share with us ?

Apr 23 07:16 <varadhan> srag, nothing much.. just hanging around. :-)

Apr 23 07:16 <srag> cool

Apr 23 07:17 <srag> hey jkerihuel , welcome to Evolution team meeting

Apr 23 07:17 <jkerihuel> srag: thx ;-)

Apr 23 07:17 <srag> you have anything to share with us ?

Apr 23 07:18 <jkerihuel> nothing in particular, we are yet quite busy rewriting the mapitest unit test suite and updating the IDL and code given microsoft docs

Apr 23 07:18 <srag> jkerihuel, cool. thx

Apr 23 07:18 <jony> jkerihuel, so the docs are legaly safe ?

Apr 23 07:19 <jkerihuel> well they do not cover patents issue, but that's not mainly different from what Samba had a year ago.

Apr 23 07:19 <jkerihuel> Furthermore for the moment we only scope with safe parts of the docs

Apr 23 07:19 <jony> ah k ..

Apr 23 07:19 <jkerihuel> we'll make a public announcement on openchange and devel mailing-list very soon

Apr 23 07:19 <srag> Ok, I'm done from my side, guys.. do we have anything else to discuss before we meet next week.

Apr 23 07:19 <jony> sounds good .. :)

Apr 23 07:20 <lakhil> srag, Crash in exchange GAL http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512605 - which needs attention :)

Apr 23 07:20 <srag> lakhil, thx

Apr 23 07:20 <srag> I will see it lakhil

Apr 23 07:20 <lakhil> pretty good traces ..thanks :)

Apr 23 07:21 <srag> Ok guys, see you all next week. Bye

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