IRC Team Meeting - January 21, 2009

Jan 21 05:09 <srag> Hello guys

Jan 21 05:10 <mcrha> abharath, just low attendance today :)

Jan 21 05:10 <abharath> mcrha: some ill, some cooling their heels I suppose :)

Jan 21 05:10 <srag> we released 2.25.5 yesterday

Jan 21 05:10 *mcrha has something for a review for abharath, phe

Jan 21 05:11 <srag> we are in feature freeze and UI/String announce

Jan 21 05:11 <abharath> mcrha: yup on my list. will be done by tomo morning

Jan 21 05:11 <srag> as I see, 2.26.x would be a bug-fix release with no major features

Jan 21 05:11 <srag> though MAPI would be a new backend that we support now on

Jan 21 05:12 <mcrha> srag, do you count de-bonobo/dbus-eds into features?

Jan 21 05:12 <srag> I'm looking at getting back the stability and performance in 2.26

Jan 21 05:12 <srag> mcrha, thatz 2.28 :-)

Jan 21 05:12 <mcrha> ahh, right, I'm sorry

Jan 21 05:12 <srag> another thing, I wanted to bring out,

Jan 21 05:12 <abharath> 2.26.x won't have features ;) srag you tricked us in there ;)

Jan 21 05:13 <jony> heh

Jan 21 05:13 <srag> due to the increasing issues in 2.24.x series, I proposed that we would have atleast two more stable releases in 2.24.x series

Jan 21 05:13 <srag> I'm proposing two dates for those releases

Jan 21 05:13 <jony> nice !

Jan 21 05:13 <srag> 2.24.4 - Jan 30

Jan 21 05:14 *andre (~andre@78.53.153.50) has joined #evolution-meet

Jan 21 05:14 <srag> 2.24.5 Feb 30

Jan 21 05:14 <srag> so that we continue to push our stability fixes to our stable users unlike our previous releases

Jan 21 05:14 <srag> Oops

Jan 21 05:14 <srag> Feb 20

Jan 21 05:14 <srag> 2.24.5 - Feb 20

Jan 21 05:14 <seb128> srag: that's the same week as GNOME 2.25.91

Jan 21 05:14 *psankar (~evo@ecoprobe-dmz.gns.novell.com) has joined #evolution-meet

Jan 21 05:15 <abharath> srag: yup

Jan 21 05:15 <srag> yeah, probably

Jan 21 05:15 <srag> seb128, you want a change of date ?

Jan 21 05:15 <seb128> srag: better to delay to the week after that then no?

Jan 21 05:15 <seb128> well, if you want to manage stable and unstable tarballs on the same week that's your call

Jan 21 05:15 <seb128> I'm just pointing it in case you wanted to do those updates in different weeks

Jan 21 05:16 <srag> Hmm, then 2.25.5 - Feb 25th

Jan 21 05:16 <srag> seb128, nice point..

Jan 21 05:17 <seb128> srag: 2.25.5 was this week

Jan 21 05:17 <seb128> ie today

Jan 21 05:17 <srag> sucks.. Im messing up

Jan 21 05:17 <srag> 2.24.5 - Feb 25th

Jan 21 05:17 <abharath> haha

Jan 21 05:17 <seb128> that would work ;-)

Jan 21 05:17 *srag blames on the new keyboard he replaced today ;-)

Jan 21 05:17 <srag> cool.

Jan 21 05:18 <srag> guys, any one else have any comments on the dates... ?

Jan 21 05:18 <srag> if not, I would inform the translation teams [and release-team] also, incase if they are pushing any string updates to them

Jan 21 05:19 <lakhil> srag, i would say jan 30 will be too aggressive

Jan 21 05:19 <srag> lakhil, but I think I already have enough to be pushed for it

Jan 21 05:19 <lakhil> then there will be gap of one month

Jan 21 05:20 <lakhil> srag, then fine

Jan 21 05:20 <srag> lakhil, another 1 week, we may have more

Jan 21 05:20 <srag> so, its Ok.

Jan 21 05:20 <lakhil> cool :-)

Jan 21 05:21 <srag> so, I take it as accepted by all :-)

Jan 21 05:21 <srag> thx guys

Jan 21 05:21 <srag> I have a list of disk summary issues that I'm tacking, expect bits from that in all the releases

Jan 21 05:21 <srag> ping me, if you want some specific focus on it

Jan 21 05:21 <seb128> is the list online somewhere?

Jan 21 05:22 <srag> lakhil, pointed me on the empty trash thing

Jan 21 05:22 <srag> seb128, its the tracker bug 543389

Jan 21 05:22 <seb128> users report that vfolder are still wrong in some case in 2.24.3

Jan 21 05:22 <seb128> ok

Jan 21 05:22 <srag> seb128, add bugs to the list or add me in the loop

Jan 21 05:23 <seb128> ok, will do

Jan 21 05:23 <srag> seb128, 2.24.3, counts of vfolder should be fine.. we don't do search-count, but manual count as before, so counts should be fine

Jan 21 05:23 <srag> except the unread folder counts in 2.24.3, which I'll be closing for 2.24.4

Jan 21 05:23 <seb128> ok, I'll ping you if I get specific buggy cases

Jan 21 05:23 <srag> seb128, sure, that would be nice

Jan 21 05:23 <srag> lets go around the channel

Jan 21 05:23 <srag> abharath, anything to share with us ?

Jan 21 05:24 <abharath> srag: PST import into trunk. hggdh following up with the packaging for Ubuntu

Jan 21 05:25 <abharath> srag: He's reported success with it and on track for proposing it to Jaunty I guess.

Jan 21 05:25 <srag> abharath, onething we must try later for 2.28.x is to get libpst to a shape and make it a external dependency

Jan 21 05:25 <seb128> he did work on the update and is waiting for review

Jan 21 05:25 <abharath> seb128: great

Jan 21 05:25 <srag> abharath, having it as experimental plugin would be hiding our nice work

Jan 21 05:26 <abharath> srag: Its not experimental ;)

Jan 21 05:26 <srag> abharath, oh, how is it compiled? conditional ?

Jan 21 05:26 <abharath> srag: Its been pushed as a base package and right now no configure options

Jan 21 05:26 <srag> don't tell me, you static link with libpist

Jan 21 05:26 <abharath> we could add one if needed

Jan 21 05:26 <srag> abharath, so what if libpst isn't there ?

Jan 21 05:26 <abharath> srag: lol nope :)

Jan 21 05:26 <abharath> srag: It won't build :D

Jan 21 05:27 <abharath> srag: Its like gstreamer

Jan 21 05:27 <srag> it meaning evolution ?

Jan 21 05:27 <abharath> srag: libpst plugin won't build

Jan 21 05:27 <msuman> automagic ;)

Jan 21 05:27 <abharath> msuman: :D

Jan 21 05:27 <srag> thatz better

Jan 21 05:27 <msuman> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/automagic.xml

Jan 21 05:27 <msuman> better?? how ;)

Jan 21 05:27 <srag> but, we must try and get it default

Jan 21 05:28 <abharath> but msuman emphasizing heavily for another configure option so we could add one if required

Jan 21 05:28 <srag> msuman, better than saying that evolution won't compile

Jan 21 05:28 <srag> abharath, both are same, I would say

Jan 21 05:28 <msuman> please read the link to know why automagic is bad :)

Jan 21 05:28 <srag> anyways

Jan 21 05:28 <msuman> anyways

Jan 21 05:28 <srag> andre, anything to share with us ?

Jan 21 05:28 <andre> no

Jan 21 05:28 <abharath> msuman: we could add one anytime :)

Jan 21 05:29 <srag> jony, anything to share with us ?

Jan 21 05:29 <jony> srag, MAPI 0.25.5 release, libmapi 0.8 tarballs are out (good news). and onto fixing bugs..

Jan 21 05:30 <srag> jony, nice

Jan 21 05:30 <srag> jony, are you giving a preview on what we have in mapi and what we would be missing wrt feature parity on the exchange webdav connector ?

Jan 21 05:31 <jony> srag, gotta wiki page on taht .

Jan 21 05:31 <jony> http://www.go-evolution.org/MAPIProvider/vsOWA

Jan 21 05:31 <jony> i'll try to put better info there .

Jan 21 05:31 <srag> sure, and advertise it :-)

Jan 21 05:31 <srag> kandepu, anything to share with us ?

Jan 21 05:31 <jony> srag, sure .. i'll do that .

Jan 21 05:31 <kandepu> srag, more into mapi testing

Jan 21 05:32 <srag> ok

Jan 21 05:32 <srag> lakhil, anything to share with us ?

Jan 21 05:32 <jony> thanks kandepu .. good boogs :)

Jan 21 05:32 <lakhil> srag, nothing

Jan 21 05:32 <kandepu> jony, hehe ...they are all yours ;)

Jan 21 05:32 <jony> ah ! reality !

Jan 21 05:32 <srag> mcrha, anything to share with us?

Jan 21 05:32 <mcrha> nothing specific, I'm just getting happy with Chen, he's reviewing my calendar work again

Jan 21 05:33 <lakhil> mcrha, :)

Jan 21 05:33 <srag> mcrha, nice :-)

Jan 21 05:33 <lakhil> chen is top reviewer for this week

Jan 21 05:33 <srag> nice :-)

Jan 21 05:33 <mcrha> he has prepared many patches to review ;)

Jan 21 05:34 <srag> mcrha, ok :)

Jan 21 05:34 <srag> msuman, anything to share with us?

Jan 21 05:35 <msuman> srag: yeah .. libical fork dropped today.. some more bugs..

Jan 21 05:35 <srag> msuman, is my make distcheck on eds gonna work agian?

Jan 21 05:35 <msuman> more packaging stuff..

Jan 21 05:35 <msuman> srag: yeah it would ;)

Jan 21 05:35 <srag> msuman, I would assert it in 2.25.90

Jan 21 05:36 <srag> psankar, anything to share with us ?

Jan 21 05:36 <psankar> srag, nope. nothing.

Jan 21 05:36 <srag> psankar, are you commiting that nice-lock-headers patch ?

Jan 21 05:36 <srag> we are in UI announce, we can absorb it

Jan 21 05:36 <psankar> srag, dont know. i havent well tested it and also we are past feature freeze

Jan 21 05:37 <srag> psankar, don't term that as a feature...

Jan 21 05:37 <srag> it isn't

Jan 21 05:37 <psankar> hardly it can be called a big geature though ;-)

Jan 21 05:37 <psankar> yeah. i'll try to get it in asap

Jan 21 05:37 <srag> sure

Jan 21 05:37 <srag> seb128, anything to share with us ?

Jan 21 05:37 <seb128> we did upgrade the ubuntu packages to 2.24.3 which fixes quite some bugs, that's good ;-)

Jan 21 05:38 <srag> nice

Jan 21 05:38 <seb128> 2.25 is blocked on this version number being lower in 2.25 than 2.24

Jan 21 05:38 <srag> seb128, Im fixing that in another 1 hour

Jan 21 05:38 <seb128> otherwise contributors worked on the libpst update and evolution-mapi

Jan 21 05:38 <seb128> I'll try to review those this week

Jan 21 05:38 <srag> sure

Jan 21 05:39 <jony> seb128, oh ? nice !

Jan 21 05:39 <seb128> so they can land into jaunty next week

Jan 21 05:39 <seb128> that's all

Jan 21 05:39 <srag> seb128, nice

Jan 21 05:39 <srag> Im looking at good bugs coming out of evolution-mapi

Jan 21 05:39 <seb128> srag: keep the good bug fixing work on ondisk storage issues ;-)

Jan 21 05:39 <srag> that needs hella lot of testing

Jan 21 05:39 <srag> seb128, sure.. thatz the only thing thatz running in me, apart from my regular Novell job :-)

Jan 21 05:39 <seb128> bugs coming soon your way don't worry ;-)

Jan 21 05:40 <srag> great

Jan 21 05:40 <srag> another thing, I made out a script yesterday

Jan 21 05:40 <srag> http://www.gnome.org/~sragavan/evolution-rebuild-summarydb

Jan 21 05:40 <srag> sqlite databases grow over a period of time, on repeated create/delete or insert/delete

Jan 21 05:41 <srag> and can slow down a lot over a period months

Jan 21 05:41 <srag> this script, when run, vacuum's users folders.db and makes it back to shape

Jan 21 05:41 <srag> I should be doing some work on shipping this atm, but should find a better solution to make it automatic from  Evolution

Jan 21 05:42 <srag> so, this helps in saving some disk space and speeding up your evolution startup

Jan 21 05:42 <srag> thatz it from my side

Jan 21 05:42 <srag> anything else to discuss ?

Jan 21 05:43 <srag> see you all next week, bye guys

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