Apr 22 06:04 <srag> Hello guys

Apr 22 06:05 <jony> hello .

Apr 22 06:05 <srag> last week we had 2.26.1 released

Apr 22 06:05 <srag> and then another .1 went a few days

Apr 22 06:05 <srag> later for the missed fixes

Apr 22 06:05 <srag> thx for jony for the help

Apr 22 06:05 <jony> :)

Apr 22 06:05 <srag> I was on *official* leave for the last 2 weeks or so

Apr 22 06:05 <srag> though, I had some good time to fix some old regressions

Apr 22 06:06 <srag> vfolder of vfolders, unmatched vfolders are back now

Apr 22 06:06 <srag> vfolder of vfolders is still a patch, waiting on bugzilla to be committed to git

Apr 22 06:06 <srag> but Im tracking down on the pending regressions

Apr 22 06:06 <andre> the cant expunge trash ticket is still open, and gets lotsa dups :-/

Apr 22 06:06 <srag> another pending thing is that Im working to get the auto-vaccuum

Apr 22 06:07 <srag> andre, yeah Im watching it :(

Apr 22 06:07 <srag> andre, I definitely have tried a lot on it.

Apr 22 06:07 <seb128> srag: is unmatched really working? I didn't update to .1.1 for jaunty because the bug comments were suggesting the code has issues

Apr 22 06:07 <srag> seb128, there is a hand

Apr 22 06:07 <srag> s/hand/hang

Apr 22 06:07 <srag> which I fixed on monday or so

Apr 22 06:07 <srag> and lakhil put the patch on my behalf

Apr 22 06:07 <srag> seb128, it should be working

Apr 22 06:08 <srag> atleast for me, but Im no power user of vfolders

Apr 22 06:08 <seb128> did you read the recent bug comments?

Apr 22 06:08 <srag> so I need lots of testing. and ready to fix it

Apr 22 06:08 <srag> lakhil, has it

Apr 22 06:08 <srag> lakhil, ?

Apr 22 06:08 *srag saw the bug and fixed it in lakhil's machine

Apr 22 06:08 <lakhil> bug 579360

Apr 22 06:08 <srag> seb128, which bug comments ?

Apr 22 06:08 <srag> seb128, # ?

Apr 22 06:08 *jony has the fix. and it is working (checking again )

Apr 22 06:09 <srag> and git is still broken, and Matt is tracking it, (though hez on travel)

Apr 22 06:09 <srag> I wish I would have good time to move to git and do the monday's release

Apr 22 06:09 <srag> seb128, ?

Apr 22 06:09 <seb128> srag: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556116

Apr 22 06:10 <seb128> srag: comment #35

Apr 22 06:10 *jony has unmatched vfolders working .

Apr 22 06:10 <srag> seb128, part of it might be due to the internal hang that I fixed

Apr 22 06:11 <seb128> srag: which is not in the tarball right?

Apr 22 06:11 <srag> it doesn't lock the UI but locks the vfolder threads/updates

Apr 22 06:11 <srag> seb128, its not

Apr 22 06:11 <srag> seb128, the patch is in 579360

Apr 22 06:11 <seb128> ok, so I think I will not update jaunty to .1.1 or not without this change

Apr 22 06:11 <srag> sure seb128

Apr 22 06:11 <seb128> thanks

Apr 22 06:11 <srag> hmm, I would like to get these to some power users to get some testing and so I can fix more, if there are more such things

Apr 22 06:12 <srag> seb128, upto you :)

Apr 22 06:12 <srag> and Anjal is doing fine, which takes my *office* hours

Apr 22 06:12 <srag> I would be merging webkit rendering may be next week or so on Evolution

Apr 22 06:12 <srag> it is nice, but it would be an optional rendering

Apr 22 06:13 <srag> It might break caret mode etc

Apr 22 06:13 <srag> Its not fully done

Apr 22 06:13 <srag> but to be taken  later on

Apr 22 06:13 <srag> need to check if Webkit is in the external deps or no

Apr 22 06:13 <srag> dont remember it

Apr 22 06:13 <srag> if not, would aks for it

Apr 22 06:14 <srag> I need to sit down on the 3.0 items,

Apr 22 06:14 <srag> too many thing at hand.. would do this week I guess

Apr 22 06:14 <srag> thatz it from my side

Apr 22 06:14 <srag> andre, anything to share with us ?

Apr 22 06:14 <andre> nope

Apr 22 06:15 <srag> abharath, anything for sharing with us ?

Apr 22 06:16 <abharath> srag: Been working on a patch to suit the changes for libpst 0.6.37 with that version the APIs should be stabilized

Apr 22 06:16 <srag> nice

Apr 22 06:16 <abharath> srag: Apart from that some bugs and looking into the External Editor rework by Holger

Apr 22 06:16 <srag> abharath, when are you pushing i t in

Apr 22 06:16 <srag> abharath, cool

Apr 22 06:16 <abharath> It looks cool. so will integrate it once its all done

Apr 22 06:16 <srag> thx

Apr 22 06:16 <abharath> srag: maybe a couple of days

Apr 22 06:16 <srag> jony, anything to share with us ?

Apr 22 06:16 <srag> abharath, thx

Apr 22 06:17 <jony> srag, nothing much .. starting to work on MAPI again .

Apr 22 06:17 <mcrha> abharath, I guess the external editor rewrite overlaps with some changes I did some time ago, doesn't it?

Apr 22 06:17 <jony> mostly held up with internal tasks .

Apr 22 06:17 <srag> jony, nice

Apr 22 06:17 <abharath> mcrha: ya looks so. But not much

Apr 22 06:18 <srag> jony, we should b e updating version of libmapi

Apr 22 06:18 <srag> on the external deps

Apr 22 06:18 <jony> srag, right .. thatz on my todo ..

Apr 22 06:18 <abharath> mcrha: BUt your patch would fix the problems with a lot other plugins

Apr 22 06:18 <srag> jony, cool

Apr 22 06:18 <mcrha> abharath, aha, I resent a patch yesterday, maybe you noticed :)

Apr 22 06:18 <srag> lakhil, anything for us ?

Apr 22 06:18 <abharath> mcrha: yup I did :)

Apr 22 06:18 <mcrha> abharath, hopefully on a review plan ;)

Apr 22 06:18 <lakhil> srag, built kill-bonobo branch and testing it out , reported some bugs

Apr 22 06:18 <lakhil> srag, built openchange 0.8.2 and looking for memory fixes

Apr 22 06:19 <srag> thx lakhil

Apr 22 06:19 <lakhil> with exchange -mapi

Apr 22 06:19 <srag> Infact I played with KB, its awesome

Apr 22 06:19 <srag> kudos to mbarnes|away :-)

Apr 22 06:19 <abharath> mcrha: sure. will take a look

Apr 22 06:19 <abharath> ya I took a look at it too. Sweet

Apr 22 06:19 <mcrha> srag, jony, external deps on libmapi, I had a chat with kerihuel and he would like to meet together, some day.

Apr 22 06:19 <srag> sure

Apr 22 06:20 <srag> mcrha, we can meet some time

Apr 22 06:20 <mcrha> not sure when yet, but you'll definitely notice when it will be

Apr 22 06:20 <srag> mcrha, anything for us ?

Apr 22 06:20 <mcrha> apart of the above nothing special, just some bugs, I think. But I would like to know the answer on my question I gave you yesterday: will there be anyone looking for approved patches and commit them to the repo before release, as Suman used to do that?

Apr 22 06:21 <srag> mcrha, ideally I want to discourage that

Apr 22 06:21 <srag> but I would still do that just before the release

Apr 22 06:21 <srag> just not to miss something

Apr 22 06:21 <mcrha> discourage at all? why?

Apr 22 06:21 <srag> mcrha, it was a request from psankar

Apr 22 06:22 <srag> for doing things like copyright assignments etc, the commit/author is very crucial

Apr 22 06:22 <srag> with git, it might work well

Apr 22 06:22 <mcrha> makes sense, sometimes dev didn't get in time to commit approved thing so why not. Ideally a bit longer than just before release, but if one doesn't check so often

Apr 22 06:22 <srag> since we can commit on someone else's behalf

Apr 22 06:22 <srag> such things, I would commit before the release

Apr 22 06:23 <mcrha> similar you could with svn I guess

Apr 22 06:23 <srag> mcrha, not sure.. in svn, you don't have author,

Apr 22 06:23 <jony> mcrha, nope . not possible with svn .

Apr 22 06:23 <srag> it takes the svn ID

Apr 22 06:23 <mcrha> anyway, do not talk about git...

Apr 22 06:23 <jony> hehe

Apr 22 06:23 <srag> git, you can commit on anyone's behalf as the --author does it

Apr 22 06:23 <srag> :)

Apr 22 06:23 <srag> seb128, anything to share with us ?

Apr 22 06:23 <seb128> srag: you can write "the patch is from ..." in the commit message too

Apr 22 06:24 <mcrha> not talking about bug and patch submitter there

Apr 22 06:24 <seb128> jony: btw thanks for not mentionning me at all in this crasher fix I tracked before 2.26.1

Apr 22 06:24 <mcrha> srag, oh, also, will there be some exact policy in changelog format finally?

Apr 22 06:24 <seb128> srag: not really, jaunty will be stable tomorrow and has 2.26.1, feedback seems good so far, still some crashers

Apr 22 06:25 <srag> mcrha, I would like to set some policy, something to ease out the NEWS generation

Apr 22 06:25 <srag> mcrha, do you have some thoughts ?

Apr 22 06:25 <seb128> and evolution-mapi is just not working, it's a mess right now, you need to right version of samba4, openchange, etc in a combinaison nobody knows about to get it working apparently

Apr 22 06:25 <srag> seb128, thatz good news

Apr 22 06:25 <mcrha> srag, jut asking, preferable all write same format, whatever it'll be

Apr 22 06:25 <srag> seb128, if there are any *blockjers* or similar category

Apr 22 06:25 <srag> lemme know

Apr 22 06:25 <srag> mcrha, sure. I would like to have some uniformity

Apr 22 06:26 <srag> mcrha, NEWS generation is a pain

Apr 22 06:26 <srag> specially there are approx 50 bugs every release

Apr 22 06:26 <seb128> srag: no real blocker right now I would say

Apr 22 06:26 <srag> seb128, gr8

Apr 22 06:26 <seb128> out of evolution-mapi not working

Apr 22 06:26 <mcrha> srag, me too, and with such policy we will be able to punish those "bad guys/gals" ;)

Apr 22 06:26 <seb128> but I guess that's expected, it's still new

Apr 22 06:26 <srag> mcrha, awesome.

Apr 22 06:26 <srag> lemme put one by friday to u and we can discuss and mandate it

Apr 22 06:27 <srag> some how :)

Apr 22 06:27 <mcrha> yeah yeah, punishment is always awesome ;)

Apr 22 06:27 <srag> :)

Apr 22 06:27 <srag> seb128, right

Apr 22 06:27 <srag> there are memory  issues

Apr 22 06:27 <abharath> mcrha: :D

Apr 22 06:27 <srag> but jony is our superhero there :)

Apr 22 06:27 <seb128> srag: well in jaunty it's just crashing evolution for most users when trying to add an account

Apr 22 06:27 <srag> oh

Apr 22 06:28 <srag> jony, u aware of those ?

Apr 22 06:28 <seb128> rumours say openchange 0.8.2 might fix it but 0.8 to 0.8.2 is not a trivial update

Apr 22 06:28 <seb128> and it was too late for jaunty

Apr 22 06:28 <mcrha> srag, there is also some discussion on generated changelog entries, not sure how much usable for evo family though. I do not know why exactly, but I do not like the kernel/git way, somehow

Apr 22 06:28 <jony> srag, it sounds like the the crashed we faced in some builds . samba3 / samba4 symbols getting mixed up .

Apr 22 06:28 <srag> mcrha, sure

Apr 22 06:29 <srag> seb128, right

Apr 22 06:29 <srag> seb128, we would move to 0.8.2 or so with 2.28

Apr 22 06:29 <srag> thatz the plan

Apr 22 06:29 <jony> seb128, which crashed ? (btw thanks for not mentionning me at all in this crasher fix I tracked before 2.26.1)

Apr 22 06:29 <srag> not sure, if in stable we can do it

Apr 22 06:29 <srag> need to check with andre & release team, if thatz possible on the stable series

Apr 22 06:29 <seb128> jony: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578685

Apr 22 06:29 <srag> to update external deps

Apr 22 06:30 <jony> seb128, oh . oki.

Apr 22 06:30 <seb128> jony: that's a detail don't worry ;-)

Apr 22 06:30 <andre> srag, sure it is - send an email to d-d-l asking for this

Apr 22 06:30 <srag> andre, nice.. lemme take this up then :)

Apr 22 06:30 <jony> srag, but i would like to run a full test before asking for this in d-d-l .

Apr 22 06:30 <srag> jony, deal

Apr 22 06:30 <abharath> makes sense

Apr 22 06:31 <srag> lets discuss on the level of changes

Apr 22 06:31 <srag> and then we make a proposal and do it

Apr 22 06:31 <jony> srag, sure .

Apr 22 06:31 <andre> srag, see http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven/ExternalDependencies

Apr 22 06:31 <srag> anything else to discuss guys ?

Apr 22 06:31 <srag> andre, I wanted to update for stable series

Apr 22 06:31 <srag> for 2.26.2

Apr 22 06:31 <andre> doesnt matter

Apr 22 06:32 <srag> nice then

Apr 22 06:32 <srag> thanks for the pointer andre

Apr 22 06:32 <mcrha> how will you generate tarballs next week when they will not fix repo before?

Apr 22 06:32 <srag> mcrha, that was my first *wish*

Apr 22 06:32 <srag> mcrha, :)

Apr 22 06:32 <mcrha> mine too, git is just broken and too complicated ;)

Apr 22 06:32 <seb128> srag: that will not work for distributor though, you can't expect them to be able to doing random updates to a new version in stable series this way

Apr 22 06:33 <jony> seb128, evolution-mapi : for account setup crasher : imho .. it is not a bug in upstream .

Apr 22 06:33 <seb128> srag: openchange 0.8 to 0.8.2 is not a stable update

Apr 22 06:33 <srag> seb128, first I would like to see my self on level of changes

Apr 22 06:33 <seb128> jony: we just do ./configure && make && make install DESTDIR

Apr 22 06:33 <srag> if there are any samba changes or just mapi patches

Apr 22 06:33 <srag> only if I feel comfortable on changes, Im gonna ask

Apr 22 06:33 <seb128> jony: where would be the bug?

Apr 22 06:33 <seb128> srag: ok thanks

Apr 22 06:34 <srag> sure

Apr 22 06:34 <srag> Ok guys, thanks a lot and see you all next week

Apr 22 06:34 <srag> bye

Apr 22 06:34 <abharath> Bye all

Apr 22 06:34 <mcrha> jony, Kerihuel said there had been some changes in 0.8.2 related and that he cannot reproduce on that version

Apr 22 06:34 <jony> seb128, anyhoo .. i'll look at those logs in launchpad .. let see .. but have some other work here .. so it would take sometime ..

Apr 22 06:34 <jony> mcrha, does this happen in fedora too ?

Apr 22 06:34 <seb128> jony: no hurry jaunty is frozen now so we will not change that for it now

Apr 22 06:34 <mcrha> jony, not for me

Apr 22 06:34 <jony> mcrha, okies .