Aug 05 06:11 <mbarnes> I guess this is everybody?

Aug 05 06:12 <mbarnes> okay, let's get started then

Aug 05 06:12 <mbarnes> short agenda today anyway

Aug 05 06:13 <mbarnes> I'm filling in for chen today, who is away on an urgent matter and will be back Thursday

Aug 05 06:13 <mbarnes> just a quick recap of things...

Aug 05 06:13 <mbarnes> Evolution 2.27.90 release is on Monday, and the UI freeze is in effect thereafter

Aug 05 06:14 <mbarnes> please set aside time this week for reviewing patches and addressing critical bugs in preparation for 2.28

Aug 05 06:15 <mbarnes> also, as chen indicated on evo-hackers, we will create the gnome-2-28 branch very shortly after UI freeze begins

Aug 05 06:15 <jony> hello and sorry i'm late .

Aug 05 06:15 <mbarnes> hey jony

Aug 05 06:15 <mbarnes> iiuc, the dbus-hybrid branch will be merged to master -after- we create the gnome-2-28 branch

Aug 05 06:16 <mbarnes> which means it will -not- be included in Evolution 2.28, due to severity of regressions and build issues with Evolution Exchange

Aug 05 06:17 <mbarnes> I'm also requesting that we not go hog wild with commits to master after branching

Aug 05 06:17 <mbarnes> it creates more work for those trying to prepare branches for merging

Aug 05 06:18 <mbarnes> so please either hold off on commits until eds-dbus and kill-bonobo are merged

Aug 05 06:18 <mbarnes> or commit to those branches and backport to master and gnome-2-28 (if appropriate)

Aug 05 06:18 <lakhil> mbarnes, when are you planning to merger kill-bonobo ? before 2.29.1 ?

Aug 05 06:18 <lakhil> s/merger/merge

Aug 05 06:19 <mbarnes> that's the plan.  I need to check whether chen has exact dates in mind or if it's more "when it's ready"

Aug 05 06:20 <mbarnes> I assume dbus-hybrid will be the first to merge

Aug 05 06:20 <lakhil> yeah

Aug 05 06:21 <mbarnes> that's all the announcements I have...

Aug 05 06:21 <mbarnes> any questions or shall we go 'round the channel?

Aug 05 06:21 <mcrha> I would like to ask

Aug 05 06:22 <mcrha> after the merge, of any of those two, ther will arise porbably many issues/regressions/bugs/required-enhancements and such

Aug 05 06:22 <mcrha> how that will be handled? I mean, the bugzilla itself has many bugs already, will there be any explicit list of those to be done before 2.29.1 or something?

Aug 05 06:23 <mcrha> and, of course, to not duplicate effort, how will we share those?

Aug 05 06:23 <mcrha> "share" or "divide", as you prefer

Aug 05 06:23 *jony and lakhil saw quite a few regressions in EDS DBUS.

Aug 05 06:24 <lakhil> we are using white board status and regression in summary field

Aug 05 06:24 <lakhil> but i am not sure how we decide on sharing

Aug 05 06:25 <mcrha> maybe just think about that until next meeting and discuss it there. I believe it'll be better

Aug 05 06:25 <mbarnes> right.  white board tags and "[regression]" in the summary have worked well for k-b

Aug 05 06:25 <mbarnes> we can continue with that until regressions get worked out

Aug 05 06:25 <mbarnes> but yeah, need to think on it some more and talk it over with chen

Aug 05 06:26 <mcrha> so I guess new sections will be added to http://www.go-evolution.org/Bugzilla_Topics

Aug 05 06:26 <mcrha> too

Aug 05 06:26 <mbarnes> dbus-hybrid is listed already.  guess I need to add kill-bonobo.  but yes.

Aug 05 06:27 <mcrha> would be good to have a section for "until 2.29.1", to not have them hidden in the quite large amount of others there

Aug 05 06:28 <mbarnes> yeah, something like that perhaps

Aug 05 06:29 <mbarnes> abharath, anything to share?

Aug 05 06:29 <abharath> mbarnes: nothing much. just working on some bugs and looking into some plugins

Aug 05 06:30 <abharath> would be looking into GAL for the next week

Aug 05 06:30 *mcrha recalls abharath saying about reviewing plugin patches too, there is at least one I'm not sure about, the new plugin proposal

Aug 05 06:30 <mbarnes> abharath: think I some a commit sometime back that said you had some early success with GAL?

Aug 05 06:31 <mbarnes> s/some/saw/

Aug 05 06:31 <abharath> mbarnes: most of the code is already in. just needs some cleaning up and fixing a couple of bugs

Aug 05 06:31 <jony> mbarnes: been looking at eds-dbus (addressbook). Will start looking at mapi this week.

Aug 05 06:31 <jony> mbarnes: been looking at eds-dbus (addressbook). Will start looking at mapi this week.

Aug 05 06:32 <mbarnes> abharath: sweet!

Aug 05 06:32 <abharath> mcrha: what's with the new plugin proposal?

Aug 05 06:32 <mbarnes> EvaSDK, anything to share?

Aug 05 06:32 <jony> (oh man .. i need to get used to irssi :( )

Aug 05 06:32 <lakhil> jony, :D

Aug 05 06:32 <EvaSDK> mbarnes: nope

Aug 05 06:32 <mbarnes> jony: :)

Aug 05 06:32 <jony> (and not drink 6 cups of coffee)

Aug 05 06:32 <EvaSDK> actually, got in contact about autotols with liam but not much done yet

Aug 05 06:32 <mcrha> abharath, just a bug with attached patch with a new plugin

Aug 05 06:32 <lakhil> and that also without water, milk and sugar :P

Aug 05 06:33 <mbarnes> I'm on my 3rd cup.  trying to lead a meeting at 6am  :P

Aug 05 06:33 <jony> lakhil: :)

Aug 05 06:33 <jony> mbarnes: hehe

Aug 05 06:33 <mbarnes> lakhil: anything to share?

Aug 05 06:33 <lakhil> mbarnes, mostly on dbus-hybrid branch testing, filed bugs for issues/ regression , apart from it bug triaging

Aug 05 06:34 <mbarnes> lakhil: okay, good.  did you attend the bugmaster meeting on Monday?

Aug 05 06:35 <lakhil> bug squad meeting i guess :)

Aug 05 06:35 <lakhil> I did attend it .. minutes are published already

Aug 05 06:35 <mbarnes> bug squad meeting I meant, yeah

Aug 05 06:36 <lakhil> http://live.gnome.org/Bugsquad/Meetings/20090903

Aug 05 06:36 <mbarnes> okay cool

Aug 05 06:37 <mbarnes> mcrha, anything to share?

Aug 05 06:37 <mcrha> mostly calendar bugs, and some other things around. Nothing special, I think. but looking forward for a branch & merge, seems to bring new challenging work to be done in sources

Aug 05 06:37 *mbarnes almost asked himself... new at this :)

Aug 05 06:37 <abharath> :D

Aug 05 06:37 <lakhil> hehe

Aug 05 06:38 <mbarnes> mcrha: "challenging" would be one word for it  ;)

Aug 05 06:38 <mbarnes> I'm looking forward to it too

Aug 05 06:38 <abharath> :)

Aug 05 06:38 *seb128 has quit (Ex-Chat)

Aug 05 06:38 <mbarnes> seb128: anything to share?

Aug 05 06:38 <mcrha> mbarnes, sooner is better here, right?

Aug 05 06:38 <mbarnes> whoops.  guess not

Aug 05 06:39 <abharath> maybe mcrha's challenge had some role to play in that happening :D

Aug 05 06:39 *abharath hides

Aug 05 06:39 <mbarnes> yeah, the sooner the better

Aug 05 06:39 *mcrha doesn't have any challenge nearby

Aug 05 06:39 <mbarnes> myself, I'm racing the clock trying to get kill-bonobo's calendar working

Aug 05 06:40 *seb128 (~seb128@89.127.177.75) has joined #evolution-meet

Aug 05 06:40 <mbarnes> seb128: hey, you came back!

Aug 05 06:40 <mbarnes> seb128: anything to share?

Aug 05 06:41 <lakhil> mbarnes, i applied your schema changes but i am still facing same problem :(

Aug 05 06:41 <seb128> yeah sorry got to restart my session

Aug 05 06:41 <lakhil> mbarnes, may i will wait for some time and try it later

Aug 05 06:41 <abharath> mcrha: I'll look into the plugins before the UI freeze commences

Aug 05 06:41 <seb128> not really, as said I think by not landing dbus changes this cycle that put a difficult position for next cycle

Aug 05 06:41 <lakhil> ( it was with respect to kill-bonobo )

Aug 05 06:41 <mbarnes> lakhil: yeah, let's talk after the meeting

Aug 05 06:41 <seb128> but let's see how it goes

Aug 05 06:41 <mcrha> abharath, yup, thanks

Aug 05 06:43 <mbarnes> seb128: I agree this next cycle will be interesting

Aug 05 06:43 <mbarnes> at least we'll have a little extra time with it

Aug 05 06:44 *mcrha is hoping in mbarnes' test rpm for the kb, involving more people for testing

Aug 05 06:44 <seb128> will that give testing in the eds port too?

Aug 05 06:45 <seb128> it took several cycle to stabilize the disk summary

Aug 05 06:45 <seb128> I doubt bonobo-slay and dbus will land and stabilize in one cycle

Aug 05 06:45 <abharath> I run nightly builds. so once dbus-port and kb branches are merged we can expect some good testing

Aug 05 06:45 <mbarnes> no, unfortunately not.  but it might not be a bad idea to package that branch too

Aug 05 06:45 <mcrha> mbarnes, probably all involved, like eex too, right?

Aug 05 06:46 <mbarnes> mcrha: right

Aug 05 06:46 <mcrha> ok

Aug 05 06:46 <mcrha> it'll be fun

Aug 05 06:46 <mbarnes> we also haven't really introduced eds-dbus and kill-bonobo to each other yet

Aug 05 06:46 <abharath> hope they love each other :)

Aug 05 06:46 <mbarnes> some early test packages might help shake out any issues there

Aug 05 06:47 <mbarnes> okay, I guess that about wraps it up for this week

Aug 05 06:47 <mbarnes> thanks everyone

Aug 05 06:47 <seb128> thanks

Aug 05 06:48 <jony> mbarnes: one more thing. Freezes are on 11th.

Aug 05 06:48 <jony> UI freeze on 11th.

Aug 05 06:48 <jony> oops .. mentioned ..

Aug 05 06:49 <mbarnes> 11th, right.  keep thinking it's when tarballs are due

Aug 05 06:49 <mbarnes> next Tuesday