Dec 02 10:39 <chen> Ok lets get started, looks like akhil is having some network issues..

Dec 02 10:40 <chen> A short summary on the releases front,

Dec 02 10:40 <chen> we just made the 2.29.3 release this week and,

Dec 02 10:40 <chen> we have 2.28.2 release coming up in another 2 weeks (Dec 14)

Dec 02 10:41 <chen> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=586972+570329+573125

Dec 02 10:41 <chen> +595389+555262+585615+601484+593700+601525+600560+594756+596253+595810

Dec 02 10:41 <chen> +586093+569329+602696+582591+602905+546637+569576+528022

Dec 02 10:41 <chen> list of bugs which akhil has shared with us for this week's meeting

Dec 02 10:41 <chen> not sure if they cover some fixes needed for 2.28.2..

Dec 02 10:42 <chen> we just had a small discussion on how to maintain the bug list with a history on how we are progressing..

Dec 02 10:42 <chen> there were some ideas like maintaining it through white-board status, target milestones etc.

Dec 02 10:42 <chen> can we discuss it out now and get a conclusion the same ?

Dec 02 10:43 <chen> mbarnes, would be great if we can have a tiny url which summarizes the critical bugs focused and set as a topic in #evolution. .

Dec 02 10:43 <chen> who do u guys think about it?

Dec 02 10:44 *mcrha doesn't care much, just likes the bug list as it is with the above (slightly longer) url given above

Dec 02 10:44 <hggdh> this would be good, it is easier to follow up on blockers/critical

Dec 02 10:44 <chen> mcrha, :)

Dec 02 10:44 <mcrha> the length of url  is no problem for me

Dec 02 10:45 <mbarnes> the question in that discussion was whether whiteboard tags or tracker bugs would be more useful

Dec 02 10:45 <chen> mcrha, length matters when u set it as a topic in channel :)

Dec 02 10:45 <mbarnes> bearing in mind the bug list may be of interest to users without a Bugzilla account

Dec 02 10:45 <mcrha> chen, yup, understood, but you would like to put it to wiki, didn't you?

Dec 02 10:45 <chen> mbarnes, cant we query the bugzilla with white-board status without loggin in ?

Dec 02 10:46 <chen> mcrha, yup, we can have it at both places :)

Dec 02 10:46 <chen> mcrha, or provide the wiki link here, anything would be good..

Dec 02 10:46 <mbarnes> chen: a manual query, sure.  that's all the tinyurl is, really

Dec 02 10:47 <mcrha> so the topic can point to wiki. can wiki hide urls under text? if so, then problem solved.

Dec 02 10:47 <chen> mbarnes, was thinking if we can make use of target milestones as well along with the white-board tag

Dec 02 10:47 <chen> mcrha, that would be just fine

Dec 02 10:48 <chen> mbarnes, missing lakhil here who is going to do all this :D

Dec 02 10:48 <mbarnes> sure, although hopefully we won't be carrying over too many bugs from one major release to the next

Dec 02 10:48 <chen> mbarnes, yup right

Dec 02 10:48 <mbarnes> target milestone only lets you target major releases, right?

Dec 02 10:48 <chen> mbarnes, i guess we can have the dot releases too in it

Dec 02 10:49 <chen> just have to added those version in bugzilla i guess

Dec 02 10:49 <mbarnes> oh we can?  sweet.  +1 then

Dec 02 10:49 <chen> +1 from me too :)

Dec 02 10:50 <chen> hggdh, srag jonner treitter what do u guys think ? :)

Dec 02 10:50 <chen> dave_largo, cbosdonnat as well :)

Dec 02 10:50 <chen> will inform lakhil once he is back on the same and we have it in that way from the next meeting

Dec 02 10:51 <chen> mbarnes, on the wiki front i will try to see if there is any script to,

Dec 02 10:51 <chen> migrate from media-wiki->xml->moin moin

Dec 02 10:51 <chen> if thats possible it would make things easy

Dec 02 10:51 <mbarnes> chen: another option besides tracker bugs and whiteboard tags is to actually use the blocker and critical severities as they were intended

Dec 02 10:51 <mbarnes> but that might be too much of a fight with users changing it on their own

Dec 02 10:52 <dave_largo> I think that Moin has a conversion script on their site from MediaWiki

Dec 02 10:52 <chen> mbarnes, since all crashers becomes by default critical, was wondering if it might be hard..

Dec 02 10:52 <mbarnes> ah, ture

Dec 02 10:52 <mbarnes> true even

Dec 02 10:53 <chen> dave_largo, ah really ? can u provide us the link ? :)

Dec 02 10:53 *chen will also search for it after the meeting

Dec 02 10:53 <chen> so if we cant find a script which is taking too long to find,

Dec 02 10:54 <chen> how about having a wiki-hackfest and getting all the pages migrated in a day

Dec 02 10:54 <mbarnes> good idea

Dec 02 10:54 <chen> it would be less number of pages if we share it among us :)

Dec 02 10:54 <mcrha> if you'll provide some guide how-to, then why not

Dec 02 10:54 <dave_largo> chen, http://moinmo.in/MediaWikiConverter

Dec 02 10:54 <chen> jony was the one who sugessted this idea, so the credit goes to him :)

Dec 02 10:55 <chen> mcrha, yup

Dec 02 10:55 *chen checks the link

Dec 02 10:55 <dave_largo> We moved from Media to Moin and just re-did the pages.

Dec 02 10:55 <dave_largo> copy and pastes.

Dec 02 10:55 <chen> ah nice :)

Dec 02 10:55 <chen> dave_largo, you made our job very easy now :)

Dec 02 10:56 <chen> dave_largo, will check it out after the meeting and we can get the pages migrated, thanks a lot!!

Dec 02 10:56 <mbarnes> dave_largo: does that script require admin access to either wiki database?

Dec 02 10:56 <mcrha> here one can see why is good to invite dave_largo to a meeting :)

Dec 02 10:56 *hggdh begs pardon, was in a sev1 call

Dec 02 10:56 <chen> mcrha, obsolutely :)

Dec 02 10:57 <chen> so looking at the blockers we have atm,

Dec 02 10:57 <dave_largo> I don't know how the perl script works, but a quick view seems to indicate that it scrapes the page

Dec 02 10:57 <chen> am working on - 550414     blo    Imm    Evolution   Corruption of mailbox and can't expunge trash

Dec 02 10:58 <chen> getting some help from akhil to get the issue reproduced

Dec 02 10:58 <chen> mcrha, i heard that you were able to reproduce it consistently with some folder, is it still true ?

Dec 02 10:59 *chen wants to try his best to get rid of this for 2.28.2

Dec 02 10:59 <mcrha> oh, it is not anymore, the folders.db file changed. I had a snap of already broken folder somewhere, but I also lost my data few months ago :(

Dec 02 10:59 <chen> mbarnes, we have just two blockers on evolution right now which needs to be targetted for 2.28.2 ..

Dec 02 10:59 <chen> mcrha, ah ok

Dec 02 11:00 <chen> mcrha, let me try to get it with akhil's help then..

Dec 02 11:00 <chen> with the on on eds side,

Dec 02 11:00 <chen> 601525     blo    Nor    Evolution-Da   e-calendar-factory crashes the second time I start evo

Dec 02 11:00 <chen> I guess with treitter's work on GDbus that should be gone

Dec 02 11:00 <mcrha> chen, andre is having this issue too often, renting on the channel. Ask him, maybe

Dec 02 11:00 <chen> mcrha, sure!

Dec 02 11:01 <chen> We have almost cleared off all the patch review backlogs!!

Dec 02 11:01 <chen> The number is way less now and much of them have been added in days with single digits :)

Dec 02 11:02 <chen> should we discuss about the ones which have been lying around for somtiem in the meeting ?

Dec 02 11:02 <chen> and prolly what can be the number of days which we can say that the patches can be in unreviewed state?

Dec 02 11:03 <chen> mbarnes, mcrha would it be appropriate to have some 2-3 weeks for the patches to stay in that state?

Dec 02 11:03 <mcrha> maybe rather with jony and bharath here

Dec 02 11:03 <mbarnes> 2 to 3 weeks sounds realistic

Dec 02 11:04 <mbarnes> given our manpower

Dec 02 11:04 <mcrha> yeah, could be. It depends on the time itself, as for freezes andsuch

Dec 02 11:04 <chen> mbarnes, yeah

Dec 02 11:04 <chen> mcrha, we can use the commit_after_freeze for bypassing the freezes

Dec 02 11:04 <mcrha> yup, sure

Dec 02 11:05 <chen> mcrha, prolly we can take this up jony and bharath along next week or in a mail thread

Dec 02 11:05 <mcrha> ok

Dec 02 11:05 <chen> To go on with the updates from my side,

Dec 02 11:05 <mbarnes> open that discussion on the hackers list, please

Dec 02 11:05 <chen> have been mostly working on imapx this week along with the one blocker which i mentioned

Dec 02 11:06 <chen> got the basics working in imapx now and cleared all the warnings,

Dec 02 11:06 <chen> will be taking up expunging, store_summary sync, cleanup, IDLE support etc.

Dec 02 11:06 <chen> coming week

Dec 02 11:06 <chen> so things are coming up well there,

Dec 02 11:06 <chen> havent got the ssl working yet

Dec 02 11:07 <chen> once thats done, we can start using it and eventually replace the existing imap provider

Dec 02 11:07 <chen> have not started working on the akhil's list yet

Dec 02 11:08 <chen> will be starting from next..

Dec 02 11:08 <chen> thats it from my side :)

Dec 02 11:08 <chen> cbosdonnat, anything to share with us?

Dec 02 11:08 <chen> dave_largo, anything to share?

Dec 02 11:09 <chen> hggdh, ? :)

Dec 02 11:09 <cbosdonnat> chen, I here more as an observer today...

Dec 02 11:09 <chen> jonner, updates ?

Dec 02 11:09 <chen> cbosdonnat, ok :)

Dec 02 11:10 <chen> cbosdonnat, akhil has started having a go at ur plugin :)

Dec 02 11:10 <chen> mbarnes, updates?

Dec 02 11:10 <chen> mcrha, updates?

Dec 02 11:10 <mbarnes> two things:

Dec 02 11:10 <mbarnes> 1) working with srag to better support Anjal in 2.29

Dec 02 11:10 <mbarnes> and improving my EShell design in the process

Dec 02 11:10 <mbarnes> 2) got a lot done on "camel-gobject" last week...

Dec 02 11:10 <mbarnes> replaced CamelException with GError, and also added GError to the CamelStream API

Dec 02 11:10 <mbarnes> which is having some run ripple effects

Dec 02 11:10 <mcrha> not much, got stuck with some downstream work, thus less work done upstream. But still some was done for the past week. :)

Dec 02 11:11 <chen> mcrha, fine :)

Dec 02 11:11 <jonner> I'm still plugging away on stuff.  I'm currently working on figuring out how filters fit in with the frontend/backend separation right now and I'm running a bit stuck on the design there

Dec 02 11:12 <chen> mbarnes, nice!!

Dec 02 11:12 <chen> jonner, cool

Dec 02 11:12 <cbosdonnat> chen, cool :D I don't have a lot of time these days

Dec 02 11:12 <chen> srag, updates

Dec 02 11:12 <chen> ?

Dec 02 11:12 <chen> treitter, updates?

Dec 02 11:13 <treitter> chen: srag is at foss.in, so he may be busy right now

Dec 02 11:13 <chen> mbarnes, having any timelines for camel-gobject ?

Dec 02 11:14 <treitter> chen: I burned some time sorting out my development libraries from my main system libraries, but I'm continuing on with the port of libebook and libecal to gdbus

Dec 02 11:14 <mbarnes> chen: 2.31 maybe?  kind of waiting to see when GIO will get SSL support

Dec 02 11:14 <chen> treitter, maybe if he gets a chance to look at :)

Dec 02 11:14 <chen> mbarnes, ah ok

Dec 02 11:15 *abharath (~abharath@59.96.59.198) has joined #evolution-meet

Dec 02 11:15 <mbarnes> figured 2.30 will have enough major changes as is

Dec 02 11:15 <chen> mbarnes, just wondered if you were planning for 2.30, as it would require considerable changes in providers as well..

Dec 02 11:15 <chen> mbarnes, right!

Dec 02 11:15 <chen> hey abharath

Dec 02 11:15 <chen> abharath, howz it going ?

Dec 02 11:15 <abharath> chen: hello hello and sorry for everything

Dec 02 11:16 <chen> everything ? :)

Dec 02 11:16 <abharath> chen: I meant for being late and barging in when there is a discussion going on :D

Dec 02 11:16 <chen> abharath, hope ur having fun at foss.in :)

Dec 02 11:16 <chen> abharath, oh np, we were just go around the room for updates..

Dec 02 11:17 <chen> abharath, have a nice time!!

Dec 02 11:18 <abharath> chen: yes it is good but lots of people making me a humble request. stop features and get everything strong now. so people looking out for your IMAP work now ;) and people loving the kill bonobo work a lot :)

Dec 02 11:18 <chen> abharath, nice to hear that :) hope u would have given them the updates :)

Dec 02 11:19 <hggdh> dammit, lots of sev1 calls... sorry

Dec 02 11:19 <chen> mbarnes, would be very happy to hear that too :)

Dec 02 11:19 <abharath> chen: yes updates from me, just moved the FAQ page last week and just updated the NEWS file for the release

Dec 02 11:19 <abharath> chen: :)

Dec 02 11:19 <chen> abharath, thanks!

Dec 02 11:19 <chen> anything else which needs to be discussed ?

Dec 02 11:20 <chen> I hope no. Next wednesday then :)

Dec 02 11:20 <chen> Thanks everyone!!

Dec 02 11:20 <mcrha> bye