Feb 10 10:34 <chen> Quickly going through project updates,
Feb 10 10:34 <chen> as mbarnes has already announced we have a 2.28.3 coming up on march 1st,
Feb 10 10:35 <abharath> me too :D
Feb 10 10:35 <chen> UI freeeze is on already and we have the string freeze coming up very soon
Feb 10 10:35 <chen> Feb 22nd
Feb 10 10:36 <chen> With go-evolution.org going occasionally down, was discussing with mbarnes about having a,
Feb 10 10:36 <chen> wiki-fest to migrate the contents during hard-code freeze time-frame
Feb 10 10:37 <abharath> wiki-fest?
Feb 10 10:37 <chen> we will discuss over the mail and get it done completely
Feb 10 10:37 <chen> abharath, yup manually moving all the pages from go-evolution.org :
Feb 10 10:37 <chen> :)
Feb 10 10:37 <abharath> any news from Dave Richards who was looking for some tools?
Feb 10 10:37 <chen> i heard from him that it would be better to manually move them..
Feb 10 10:38 <abharath> hehe ok :) I tried the tool once, but without much success
Feb 10 10:38 <chen> and i don think it taken more than a day if we all join together, isn it?
Feb 10 10:38 <mbarnes> feel free to start early, of course :)
Feb 10 10:38 *mcrha (~email@example.com) has joined #evolution-meet
Feb 10 10:38 <abharath> :D
Feb 10 10:38 <chen> sure :)
Feb 10 10:38 <chen> hey mcrha
Feb 10 10:39 <mcrha> hi, seems I missed something funny
Feb 10 10:39 <chen> we were just speaking about having a wiki-fest
Feb 10 10:39 <mcrha> aha
Feb 10 10:39 <chen> to move the contents from go-evolution.org to l.g.o around hard-code freeze time-frame
Feb 10 10:39 <mcrha> good idea
Feb 10 10:39 <chen> mcrha, other than that just some reminders on freezes
Feb 10 10:40 <mbarnes> between 2.29.92 and 2.30.0
Feb 10 10:40 *lakhil has some agenda for that precious break :)
Feb 10 10:40 <chen> yup right
Feb 10 10:40 <chen> lakhil, wow do u want to discuss it now ?
Feb 10 10:40 <lakhil> nope ..at the end of the meeting
Feb 10 10:40 <chen> cool
Feb 10 10:41 <mcrha> there was also promised an announcement of new intern folks last time, wasn't it?
Feb 10 10:41 <chen> yup right :)
Feb 10 10:42 <chen> unfortunately they don have internet access at their homes yet
Feb 10 10:42 <mcrha> oh
Feb 10 10:42 <chen> so i heard from them that they would join next week
Feb 10 10:42 <chen> since the meeting happens at 9:00 pm IST,
Feb 10 10:42 <chen> they would be at their home atm
Feb 10 10:43 <chen> I hope they would get on next week,
Feb 10 10:43 <chen> or we can introduce them when early enough too :)
Feb 10 10:44 <mcrha> up to you
Feb 10 10:44 <mbarnes> chen: could at least point them to the meeting logs on the website
Feb 10 10:44 <chen> With very less time available, it would be great if we concentrate on the regressions and stability fixes for 2.30 aggressively
Feb 10 10:44 <chen> mbarnes, yup i have given them the link
Feb 10 10:45 <chen> btw a small internal happening to leak out,
Feb 10 10:45 <chen> they are going to market evolution to us during the beginning of next week :)
Feb 10 10:45 <chen> a small demo from them where the devs are going to act as new bees :)
Feb 10 10:46 <chen> Should be discuss anything else before moving on to status updates?
Feb 10 10:46 <chen> updates from my end,
Feb 10 10:46 *mcrha is wondering what that means, but rather doesn't ask
Feb 10 10:47 <chen> mcrha, just for them to get started with the features in evolution
Feb 10 10:47 <mcrha> aah :)
Feb 10 10:48 <chen> moving on with more imapx fixes. thanks to lakhil, abharath and jony for filing bugs :)
Feb 10 10:48 <chen> I see that its relatively stable now, but more fixing on the pipe-line
Feb 10 10:48 <chen> abharath, updates?
Feb 10 10:49 <abharath> chen: been working on MAPI GAL progress indicator. Just gave a test patch to lakhil today
Feb 10 10:49 <lakhil> always welcome
Feb 10 10:49 <chen> abharath, cool
Feb 10 10:49 <chen> jonner, updates?
Feb 10 10:49 <abharath> and he also pointed me out some issue with addressbook view if the contacts exceed 30k+
Feb 10 10:49 <abharath> takes a few seconds even for personal addressbooks to display. will look into that next
Feb 10 10:49 <chen> abharath, btw are u looking at completing the fix for the attachment crasher ?
Feb 10 10:49 *chen checks for bug id
Feb 10 10:50 <abharath> chen: aah :D sure tomo once I get back to work :)
Feb 10 10:50 <chen> kov, anything to share ?
Feb 10 10:50 <chen> fine
Feb 10 10:50 <chen> lakhil, updates?
Feb 10 10:50 <lakhil> chen, testing mapi and imapx providers, besides this some regression testing and as usual bug triaging
Feb 10 10:51 <chen> lakhil, thanks!!
Feb 10 10:51 <chen> mbarnes, updates?
Feb 10 10:51 <mcrha> abharath, I'm taking your word, it'll be closed tomorrow and patch in sources ;)
Feb 10 10:51 <chen> :)
Feb 10 10:51 <mbarnes> finally got account-wide searches in mailer working again
Feb 10 10:51 <mbarnes> otherwise just fixing regressions and whatever else comes up before 2.30
Feb 10 10:51 <abharath> mcrha: yes take the word :D
Feb 10 10:52 <chen> mbarnes, nice, thanks!!
Feb 10 10:52 <chen> mcrha, updates?
Feb 10 10:52 <mcrha> mostly on MAPI, fixing, and thinking
Feb 10 10:52 <chen> mcrha, cool :) thinking on bugs ? ;)
Feb 10 10:53 <mcrha> on MAPI changes, discussing with jony and kerihuel
Feb 10 10:53 <mcrha> not big changes, just some conceptual
Feb 10 10:53 *chen leaves the floor to lakhil now for his update :)
Feb 10 10:53 <lakhil> thanks chen
Feb 10 10:53 <chen> mcrha, ok
Feb 10 10:54 *mcrha as well
Feb 10 10:54 <lakhil> i just want to share brief bugzilla statistics
Feb 10 10:54 <lakhil> to get better picture about upcoming release
Feb 10 10:54 <lakhil> we have 5 blockers, 14 bugs under kill-bonobo regression category and 14 bugs under dbus regression category
Feb 10 10:55 <lakhil> we did some efforts around one and half month back for blockers
Feb 10 10:55 *mcrha has 15th for dbus, guessing
Feb 10 10:55 <lakhil> but we haven't taken care of all ... so would be better if 2.30 go on floor without any blocker bug
Feb 10 10:56 <mcrha> oh, why me...
Feb 10 10:56 <chen> am not sure much about dbus fixes on threading though
Feb 10 10:56 <lakhil> mcrha, dbus list :)
Feb 10 10:56 <chen> we might need gdbus and we may not have it..
Feb 10 10:56 <mcrha> lakhil, yup, I see :)
Feb 10 10:57 <lakhil> chen, but blockers don't have any dbus bug
Feb 10 10:57 <chen> lakhil, so for blockers such as,
Feb 10 10:57 <chen> mbox corruption, we might need to move to maildir as we discussed..
Feb 10 10:57 <lakhil> yeah ..
Feb 10 10:58 <chen> but am not sure if we have efforts to do it before 2.30
Feb 10 10:58 <lakhil> may be we can plan for 2.30.x ..
Feb 10 10:58 <chen> yup right
Feb 10 10:58 <lakhil> but we shouldn't delay more
Feb 10 10:58 <mcrha> no enough time, hard testing
Feb 10 10:58 <chen> so we will prolly add it for beyong 2.30
Feb 10 10:58 <lakhil> people are cribbing .. every day at least one bug
Feb 10 10:59 <chen> which we should start discussing around march ?
Feb 10 10:59 <chen> we can take a look at first 3 and see what we can do before 2.30
Feb 10 10:59 <lakhil> chen, sure .. just collected some info as we are in gnome rc
Feb 10 10:59 <chen> i would suggest to skip last two
Feb 10 10:59 <chen> for 2.30
Feb 10 11:00 <lakhil> ok
Feb 10 11:00 <chen> and we can put them in the road for 3.0 (guess thats the next version ? ;) )
Feb 10 11:01 <lakhil> target - sept release
Feb 10 11:01 <chen> lakhil, right
Feb 10 11:01 <mcrha> themapi one seems to be fixed by openchange 0.9
Feb 10 11:01 *mbarnes will take 604542... was looking for that the other day and had lost it
Feb 10 11:02 <abharath> and the table editing one, I think I could fix that.I'll look more at it tonight
Feb 10 11:02 *chen reads through it
Feb 10 11:02 <lakhil> chen, it's a reproducible crash
Feb 10 11:02 <abharath> chen: definitely not a blocker :D
Feb 10 11:02 <lakhil> so it will be good if we can fix it
Feb 10 11:02 <abharath> hapens as a one off case
Feb 10 11:03 <mcrha> chen, from my point of view depends on a complexity of the problem, if abharath can do that together with the promised one, then why not.
Feb 10 11:03 <abharath> good to fix yes but definitely not a blocker :)
Feb 10 11:03 <chen> lakhil, lets check it out and decide depending on the fix, prolly mbarnes might have a better idea ?
Feb 10 11:03 <chen> mcrha, lol
Feb 10 11:03 <abharath> mcrha: :D you track my promises a lot :) damn makes it hard for me :D
Feb 10 11:03 <lakhil> abharath, now a days we mark reproducible crashes as blocker .. so that we don't miss them
Feb 10 11:04 <abharath> lakhil: oh ok
Feb 10 11:04 <mcrha> abharath, I would say "this night", but then realized a next day would be a good deadline too, but then something told me...
Feb 10 11:04 <chen> lakhil, but yes we movement to webkit round the corner for next release. we can choose it depending on the fix required for this and yes need re-assesment on the blocker category as well :)
Feb 10 11:05 <lakhil> chen, yeah ..sure
Feb 10 11:05 <lakhil> chen, webkit was there for 2.30 as well :)
Feb 10 11:05 <chen> lakhil, hope we have discussed through the list and made things partly clear..
Feb 10 11:06 <mcrha> lakhil, here you see how planning works in practice ;)
Feb 10 11:06 <lakhil> hehe
Feb 10 11:06 <chen> :)
Feb 10 11:06 <lakhil> chen, we have around 60 patches in un-reviewed state ..
Feb 10 11:06 <lakhil> if time allows, we can merge some of them .. without breaking any freeze :-)
Feb 10 11:06 <mcrha> who did send them?
Feb 10 11:07 <lakhil> mcrha, zombie :-P
Feb 10 11:07 <mcrha> last time I saw there around 40-something
Feb 10 11:07 <chen> lakhil, yup will look at them, hmm lots to look at :)
Feb 10 11:07 <mbarnes> oh, one other thing:
Feb 10 11:07 <mbarnes> right now it looks like we didn't get anything done for 2.30 :)
Feb 10 11:08 <mcrha> say we didn't plan anything for 2.30 ;)
Feb 10 11:08 <abharath> :D
Feb 10 11:08 <lakhil> :)
Feb 10 11:08 <chen> mbarnes, should just need an update :)
Feb 10 11:08 <chen> shall we have a dead-line for that ?
Feb 10 11:09 <mcrha> definitely, 2.31
Feb 10 11:09 <chen> mbarnes, before this Friday ?
Feb 10 11:09 <abharath> mcrha: lol
Feb 10 11:09 <abharath> he meant updating the wiki I suppose
Feb 10 11:09 <mcrha> chen, it's just one day
Feb 10 11:10 <mcrha> actually, I've nothing in particular to write there, so it's up to you all
Feb 10 11:10 <mbarnes> chen: whenever you can find 5 minutes
Feb 10 11:11 <chen> cool
Feb 10 11:11 <mcrha> hmm, mbarnes is more cruel, so it's meeting-end-time + 5 minutes now
Feb 10 11:11 <lakhil> one last item from my side :-)
Feb 10 11:11 <chen> by tomorrow then
Feb 10 11:11 <chen> lakhil, go on :)
Feb 10 11:11 <lakhil> I want to propose long pending bug day just after hard code freeze (march 15) to get better bug list preparation for gnome 3.0
Feb 10 11:11 <mbarnes> mcrha: think of it as homework :)
Feb 10 11:11 *mcrha will think of it ;)
Feb 10 11:12 <mbarnes> lakhil: bug triage day, you mean?
Feb 10 11:12 <lakhil> mbarnes, yep
Feb 10 11:12 <mbarnes> +1
Feb 10 11:12 <mcrha> when does the hard code freeze begin? (I obviously missed the beginning of this meeting)
Feb 10 11:12 <chen> march 15
Feb 10 11:12 <lakhil> gnome wide also planning is going on ..
Feb 10 11:13 <lakhil> chen, that's hard code freeze date
Feb 10 11:13 <lakhil> oops ..
Feb 10 11:13 <chen> yup
Feb 10 11:13 <mcrha> oh, lakhil meant after start, not after end, I see
Feb 10 11:13 <chen> oh sorry
Feb 10 11:14 <lakhil> mcrha, when ever you are free from coding
Feb 10 11:14 <chen> mcrha, end must be march 29
Feb 10 11:14 <lakhil> date can be decided on our convenience
Feb 10 11:14 <mcrha> it's too close
Feb 10 11:14 <lakhil> mcrha, be brave :)
Feb 10 11:14 <abharath> haha
Feb 10 11:15 *mcrha will be brave and disappear for the first two weeks in march
Feb 10 11:15 <mcrha> that much for planning
Feb 10 11:15 <chen> lol
Feb 10 11:15 <abharath> :D
Feb 10 11:15 <lakhil> lol
Feb 10 11:16 <chen> lakhil, anything else ?
Feb 10 11:16 <lakhil> chen, nope .. i am done
Feb 10 11:16 <chen> anything else from anyone?
Feb 10 11:16 <mcrha> just thinking...
Feb 10 11:16 <mcrha> ...what will be the duty on the bug trage day
Feb 10 11:17 <mcrha> *triage
Feb 10 11:17 <mcrha> question for lakhil, I suppose
Feb 10 11:17 <chen> i guess that says itself :) but are u asking on the components which people are going to look at ?
Feb 10 11:17 <lakhil> close bugs, move them to right component and priority .. choose some bugs which we want to fix in 2.32
Feb 10 11:18 *mcrha understands well the first one, the rest...
Feb 10 11:18 <mcrha> chen, yup, that probably too, to not overlap
Feb 10 11:19 <mcrha> ha, andre was asking for an update of developers in bugzilla the other day, not sure if any competent noticed that
Feb 10 11:19 <chen> lakhil, prolly it would be great if you send out a mail in detail to help us all share the work
Feb 10 11:19 <chen> mcrha, ah yeah will update it right away :)
Feb 10 11:20 <lakhil> chen, sure
Feb 10 11:20 <mcrha> ok
Feb 10 11:20 <chen> just need to make sure no old dev's gets offended while updating, will have a word with them as well
Feb 10 11:21 <lakhil> hopefully, will come up with proposal in next meeting
Feb 10 11:21 *mcrha expected a live.gnome.org link
Feb 10 11:21 <chen> that points to lgo
Feb 10 11:21 <abharath> mbarnes: so for now we migrate all the data as it exists on the go-evo wiki??
Feb 10 11:22 *abharath does not like to think while migrating. just collect data and dump it manually. then update maybe once we have everything ready
Feb 10 11:22 <mbarnes> abharath: use your discretion -- there's some obviously bogus pages there
Feb 10 11:22 <mbarnes> abharath: do you know if we can delete pages, or is that admin-only?
Feb 10 11:23 *mbarnes wanted to clear out the junk pages so there's less noise
Feb 10 11:23 <chen> mbarnes, u can try deleting..
Feb 10 11:24 <chen> if its junk, who cares :)
Feb 10 11:24 <abharath> mbarnes: I guess deleting works only for the one who created it. not sure though
Feb 10 11:25 <mbarnes> that would make sense, I guess
Feb 10 11:25 <abharath> mbarnes: or edit it saying, please skip this page :)
Feb 10 11:25 <chen> Next week then at the same time :)
Feb 10 11:26 <chen> thanks everyone