Feb 10 10:34 <chen> Quickly going through project updates,

Feb 10 10:34 <chen> as mbarnes has already announced we have a 2.28.3 coming up on march 1st,

Feb 10 10:35 <abharath> me too :D

Feb 10 10:35 <chen> UI freeeze is on already and we have the string freeze coming up very soon

Feb 10 10:35 <chen> Feb 22nd

Feb 10 10:36 <chen> With go-evolution.org going occasionally down, was discussing with mbarnes about having a,

Feb 10 10:36 <chen> wiki-fest to migrate the contents during hard-code freeze time-frame

Feb 10 10:37 <abharath> wiki-fest?

Feb 10 10:37 <chen> we will discuss over the mail and get it done completely

Feb 10 10:37 <chen> abharath, yup manually moving all the pages from go-evolution.org :

Feb 10 10:37 <chen> :)

Feb 10 10:37 <abharath> any news from Dave Richards who was looking for some tools?

Feb 10 10:37 <chen> i heard from him that it would  be better to manually move them..

Feb 10 10:38 <abharath> hehe ok :) I tried the tool once, but without much success

Feb 10 10:38 <chen> and i don think it taken more than a day if we all join together, isn it?

Feb 10 10:38 <mbarnes> feel free to start early, of course  :)

Feb 10 10:38 *mcrha (~mcrha@nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com) has joined #evolution-meet

Feb 10 10:38 <abharath> :D

Feb 10 10:38 <chen> sure :)

Feb 10 10:38 <chen> hey mcrha

Feb 10 10:39 <mcrha> hi, seems I missed something funny

Feb 10 10:39 <chen> we were just speaking about having a wiki-fest

Feb 10 10:39 <mcrha> aha

Feb 10 10:39 <chen> to move the contents from go-evolution.org to l.g.o around hard-code freeze time-frame

Feb 10 10:39 <mcrha> good idea

Feb 10 10:39 <chen> mcrha, other than that just some reminders on freezes

Feb 10 10:40 <mbarnes> between 2.29.92 and 2.30.0

Feb 10 10:40 *lakhil has some agenda for that precious break :)

Feb 10 10:40 <chen> yup right

Feb 10 10:40 <chen> lakhil, wow do u want to discuss it now ?

Feb 10 10:40 <lakhil> nope ..at the end of the meeting

Feb 10 10:40 <chen> cool

Feb 10 10:41 <mcrha> there was also promised an announcement of new intern folks last time, wasn't it?

Feb 10 10:41 <chen> yup right :)

Feb 10 10:42 <chen> unfortunately they don have internet access at their homes yet

Feb 10 10:42 <mcrha> oh

Feb 10 10:42 <chen> so i heard from them that they would join next week

Feb 10 10:42 <chen> since the meeting happens at 9:00 pm IST,

Feb 10 10:42 <chen> they would be at their home atm

Feb 10 10:43 <chen> I hope they would get on next week,

Feb 10 10:43 <chen> or we can introduce them when early enough too :)

Feb 10 10:44 <mcrha> up to you

Feb 10 10:44 <mbarnes> chen: could at least point them to the meeting logs on the website

Feb 10 10:44 <chen> With very less time available, it would be great if we concentrate on the regressions and stability fixes for 2.30 aggressively

Feb 10 10:44 <chen> mbarnes, yup i have given them the link

Feb 10 10:45 <chen> btw a small internal happening to leak out,

Feb 10 10:45 <chen> they are going to market evolution to us during the beginning of next week :)

Feb 10 10:45 <chen> a small demo from them where the devs are going to act as new bees :)

Feb 10 10:46 <chen> Should be discuss anything else before moving on to status updates?

Feb 10 10:46 <chen> updates from my end,

Feb 10 10:46 *mcrha is wondering what that means, but rather doesn't ask

Feb 10 10:47 <chen> mcrha, just for them to get started with the features in evolution

Feb 10 10:47 <mcrha> aah :)

Feb 10 10:48 <chen> moving on with more imapx fixes. thanks to lakhil, abharath and jony for filing bugs :)

Feb 10 10:48 <chen> I see that its relatively stable now, but more fixing on the pipe-line

Feb 10 10:48 <chen> abharath, updates?

Feb 10 10:49 <abharath> chen: been working on MAPI GAL progress indicator. Just gave a test patch to lakhil today

Feb 10 10:49 <lakhil> always welcome

Feb 10 10:49 <chen> abharath, cool

Feb 10 10:49 <chen> jonner, updates?

Feb 10 10:49 <abharath> and he also pointed me out some issue with addressbook view if the contacts exceed 30k+

Feb 10 10:49 <abharath> takes a few seconds even for personal addressbooks to display. will look into that next

Feb 10 10:49 <chen> abharath, btw are u looking at completing the fix for the attachment crasher ?

Feb 10 10:49 *chen checks for bug id

Feb 10 10:50 <abharath> chen: aah :D sure tomo once I get back to work :)

Feb 10 10:50 <chen> kov, anything to share ?

Feb 10 10:50 <chen> abharath, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606811

Feb 10 10:50 <chen> fine

Feb 10 10:50 <chen> lakhil, updates?

Feb 10 10:50 <lakhil> chen, testing mapi and imapx providers, besides this some regression testing and as usual bug triaging

Feb 10 10:51 <chen> lakhil, thanks!!

Feb 10 10:51 <chen> mbarnes, updates?

Feb 10 10:51 <mcrha> abharath, I'm taking your word, it'll be closed tomorrow and patch in sources ;)

Feb 10 10:51 <chen> :)

Feb 10 10:51 <mbarnes> finally got account-wide searches in mailer working again

Feb 10 10:51 <mbarnes> otherwise just fixing regressions and whatever else comes up before 2.30

Feb 10 10:51 <abharath> mcrha: yes take the word :D

Feb 10 10:52 <chen> mbarnes, nice, thanks!!

Feb 10 10:52 <chen> mcrha, updates?

Feb 10 10:52 <mcrha> mostly on MAPI, fixing, and thinking

Feb 10 10:52 <chen> mcrha, cool :) thinking on bugs ? ;)

Feb 10 10:53 <mcrha> on MAPI changes, discussing with jony and kerihuel

Feb 10 10:53 <mcrha> not big changes, just some conceptual

Feb 10 10:53 *chen leaves the floor to lakhil now for his update :)

Feb 10 10:53 <lakhil> thanks chen

Feb 10 10:53 <chen> mcrha, ok

Feb 10 10:54 *mcrha as well

Feb 10 10:54 <lakhil> i just want to share brief bugzilla statistics

Feb 10 10:54 <lakhil> to get better picture about upcoming release

Feb 10 10:54 <lakhil> we have 5 blockers, 14 bugs under kill-bonobo regression category and 14 bugs under dbus regression category

Feb 10 10:55 <lakhil> we did some efforts around one and half month back for blockers

Feb 10 10:55 *mcrha has 15th for dbus, guessing

Feb 10 10:55 <lakhil> but we haven't taken care of all ... so would be better if 2.30 go on floor without any blocker bug

Feb 10 10:56 <lakhil> mcrha, http://bit.ly/cRrsh5

Feb 10 10:56 <mcrha> oh, why me...

Feb 10 10:56 <chen> am not sure much about dbus fixes on threading though

Feb 10 10:56 <lakhil> mcrha, dbus list :)

Feb 10 10:56 <chen> we might need gdbus and we may not have it..

Feb 10 10:56 <mcrha> lakhil, yup, I see :)

Feb 10 10:57 <lakhil> chen, but blockers don't have any dbus bug

Feb 10 10:57 <chen> lakhil, so for blockers such as,

Feb 10 10:57 <chen> mbox corruption, we might need to move to maildir as we discussed..

Feb 10 10:57 <lakhil> yeah ..

Feb 10 10:58 <chen> but am not sure if we have efforts to do it before 2.30

Feb 10 10:58 <lakhil> may be we can plan for 2.30.x ..

Feb 10 10:58 <chen> yup right

Feb 10 10:58 <lakhil> but we shouldn't delay more

Feb 10 10:58 <mcrha> no enough time, hard testing

Feb 10 10:58 <chen> so we will prolly add it for beyong 2.30

Feb 10 10:58 <lakhil> people are cribbing .. every day at least one bug

Feb 10 10:59 <chen> which we should start discussing around march ?

Feb 10 10:59 <lakhil> other blockers http://bit.ly/95D9qi

Feb 10 10:59 <chen> we can take a look at first 3 and see what we can do before 2.30

Feb 10 10:59 <lakhil> chen, sure .. just collected some info as we are in gnome rc

Feb 10 10:59 <chen> i would suggest to skip last two

Feb 10 10:59 <chen> for 2.30

Feb 10 11:00 <lakhil> ok

Feb 10 11:00 <chen> and we can put them in the road for 3.0 (guess thats the next version ? ;) )

Feb 10 11:01 <lakhil> target - sept release

Feb 10 11:01 <chen> lakhil, right

Feb 10 11:01 <mcrha> themapi one seems to be fixed by openchange 0.9

Feb 10 11:01 *mbarnes will take 604542... was looking for that the other day and had lost it

Feb 10 11:02 <abharath> and the table editing one, I think I could fix that.I'll look more at it tonight

Feb 10 11:02 <chen> how far https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=607324 is important ?

Feb 10 11:02 *chen reads through it

Feb 10 11:02 <lakhil> chen, it's a reproducible crash

Feb 10 11:02 <abharath> chen: definitely not a blocker :D

Feb 10 11:02 <lakhil> so it will be good if we can fix it

Feb 10 11:02 <abharath> hapens as a one off case

Feb 10 11:03 <mcrha> chen, from my point of view depends on a complexity of the problem, if abharath can do that together with the promised one, then why not.

Feb 10 11:03 <abharath> good to fix yes but definitely not a blocker :)

Feb 10 11:03 <chen> lakhil, lets check it out and decide depending on the fix, prolly mbarnes might have a better idea ?

Feb 10 11:03 <chen> mcrha, lol

Feb 10 11:03 <abharath> mcrha: :D you track my promises a lot :) damn makes it hard for me :D

Feb 10 11:03 <lakhil> abharath, now a days we mark reproducible crashes as blocker .. so that we don't miss them

Feb 10 11:04 <abharath> lakhil: oh ok

Feb 10 11:04 <mcrha> abharath, I would say "this night", but then realized a next day would be a good deadline too, but then something told me...

Feb 10 11:04 <chen> lakhil, but yes we movement to webkit round the corner for next release. we can choose it depending on the fix required for this and yes need re-assesment on the blocker category as well :)

Feb 10 11:05 <lakhil> chen, yeah ..sure

Feb 10 11:05 <lakhil> chen, webkit was there for 2.30 as well :)

Feb 10 11:05 <chen> lakhil, hope we have discussed through the list and made things partly clear..

Feb 10 11:06 <mcrha> lakhil, here you see how planning works in practice ;)

Feb 10 11:06 <lakhil> hehe

Feb 10 11:06 <chen> :)

Feb 10 11:06 <lakhil> chen, we have around 60 patches in un-reviewed state ..

Feb 10 11:06 <lakhil> if time allows, we can merge some of them .. without breaking any freeze :-)

Feb 10 11:06 <mcrha> who did send them?

Feb 10 11:07 <lakhil> mcrha, zombie :-P

Feb 10 11:07 <mcrha> last time I saw there around 40-something

Feb 10 11:07 <chen> lakhil, yup will look at them, hmm lots to look at :)

Feb 10 11:07 <mbarnes> oh, one other thing:

Feb 10 11:07 <mbarnes> would be good if we could all take a minute and update http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Planning230

Feb 10 11:07 <mbarnes> right now it looks like we didn't get anything done for 2.30  :)

Feb 10 11:08 <mcrha> say we didn't plan anything for 2.30 ;)

Feb 10 11:08 <abharath> :D

Feb 10 11:08 <lakhil> :)

Feb 10 11:08 <chen> mbarnes, should just need an update :)

Feb 10 11:08 <chen> shall we have a dead-line for that  ?

Feb 10 11:09 <mcrha> definitely, 2.31

Feb 10 11:09 <chen> mbarnes, before this Friday ?

Feb 10 11:09 <abharath> mcrha: lol

Feb 10 11:09 <abharath> he meant updating the wiki I suppose

Feb 10 11:09 <mcrha> chen, it's just one day

Feb 10 11:10 <mcrha> actually, I've nothing in particular to write there, so it's up to you all

Feb 10 11:10 <mbarnes> chen: whenever you can find 5 minutes

Feb 10 11:11 <chen> cool

Feb 10 11:11 <mcrha> hmm, mbarnes is more cruel, so it's meeting-end-time + 5 minutes now

Feb 10 11:11 <lakhil> one last item from my side :-)

Feb 10 11:11 <chen> by tomorrow then

Feb 10 11:11 <chen> lakhil, go on :)

Feb 10 11:11 <lakhil> I want to propose long pending bug day just after hard code freeze (march 15) to get better bug list preparation for gnome 3.0

Feb 10 11:11 <mbarnes> mcrha: think of it as homework  :)

Feb 10 11:11 *mcrha will think of it ;)

Feb 10 11:12 <mbarnes> lakhil: bug triage day, you mean?

Feb 10 11:12 <lakhil> mbarnes, yep

Feb 10 11:12 <mbarnes> +1

Feb 10 11:12 <mcrha> when does the hard code freeze begin? (I obviously missed the beginning of this meeting)

Feb 10 11:12 <chen> march 15

Feb 10 11:12 <lakhil> gnome wide also planning is going on ..

Feb 10 11:13 <lakhil> chen, that's hard code freeze date

Feb 10 11:13 <lakhil> oops ..

Feb 10 11:13 <chen> yup

Feb 10 11:13 <mcrha> oh, lakhil meant after start, not after end, I see

Feb 10 11:13 <chen> oh sorry

Feb 10 11:14 <lakhil> mcrha, when ever you are free from coding

Feb 10 11:14 <chen> mcrha, end must be march 29

Feb 10 11:14 <lakhil> date can be decided on our convenience

Feb 10 11:14 <mcrha> it's too close

Feb 10 11:14 <lakhil> mcrha, be brave :)

Feb 10 11:14 <abharath> haha

Feb 10 11:15 *mcrha will be brave and disappear for the first two weeks in march

Feb 10 11:15 <mcrha> that much for planning

Feb 10 11:15 <chen> lol

Feb 10 11:15 <abharath> :D

Feb 10 11:15 <lakhil> lol

Feb 10 11:16 <chen> lakhil, anything else ?

Feb 10 11:16 <lakhil> chen, nope .. i am done

Feb 10 11:16 <chen> anything else from anyone?

Feb 10 11:16 <mcrha> just thinking...

Feb 10 11:16 <mcrha> ...what will be the duty on the bug trage day

Feb 10 11:17 <mcrha> *triage

Feb 10 11:17 <mcrha> question for lakhil, I suppose

Feb 10 11:17 <chen> i guess that says itself :) but are u asking on the components which people are going to look at ?

Feb 10 11:17 <lakhil> close bugs, move them to right component and priority .. choose some bugs which we want to fix in 2.32

Feb 10 11:18 *mcrha understands well the first one, the rest...

Feb 10 11:18 <mcrha> chen, yup, that probably too, to not overlap

Feb 10 11:19 <mcrha> ha, andre was asking for an update of developers in bugzilla the other day, not sure if any competent noticed that

Feb 10 11:19 <chen> lakhil, prolly it would be great if you send out a mail in detail to help us all share the work

Feb 10 11:19 <chen> mcrha, ah yeah will update it right away :)

Feb 10 11:20 <lakhil> chen, sure

Feb 10 11:20 <mcrha> ok

Feb 10 11:20 <chen> just need to make sure no old dev's gets offended while updating, will have a word with them as well

Feb 10 11:20 <lakhil> we have some data on bug day here http://www.go-evolution.org/Bug_day

Feb 10 11:21 <lakhil> hopefully, will come up with proposal in next meeting

Feb 10 11:21 *mcrha expected a live.gnome.org link

Feb 10 11:21 <chen> mcrha, that gives http://live.gnome.org/Bugsquad/TriageGuide

Feb 10 11:21 <chen> that points to lgo

Feb 10 11:21 <abharath> mbarnes: so for now we migrate all the data as it exists on the go-evo wiki??

Feb 10 11:22 *abharath does not like to think while migrating. just collect data and dump it manually. then update maybe once we have everything ready

Feb 10 11:22 <mbarnes> abharath: use your discretion -- there's some obviously bogus pages there

Feb 10 11:22 <mbarnes> abharath: do you know if we can delete pages, or is that admin-only?

Feb 10 11:23 *mbarnes wanted to clear out the junk pages so there's less noise

Feb 10 11:23 <chen> mbarnes, u can try deleting..

Feb 10 11:24 <chen> if its junk, who cares :)

Feb 10 11:24 <abharath> mbarnes: I guess deleting works only for the one who created it. not sure though

Feb 10 11:25 <mbarnes> that would make sense, I guess

Feb 10 11:25 <abharath> mbarnes: or edit it saying, please skip this page :)

Feb 10 11:25 <chen> Next week then at the same time :)

Feb 10 11:26 <chen> thanks everyone