Apr 28 17:29 <mmeeks> mcrha: you know Caolan's "call-catcher" ?
Apr 28 17:29 <mmeeks> mcrha: I wonder - has anyone used it to de-louse Evolution ?
Apr 28 17:30 <mcrha> hi mmeeks, I heard about it, but never used it. Ask Matt, he did some such kind of cleanup recently
Apr 28 17:30 <mmeeks> mcrha: when I did the (C) audit, it turned out there were whole unused modules ;-) e-table widgets & the like.
Apr 28 17:31 <mcrha> sure, ETable is whole unused ;)
Apr 28 17:32 <chen> Lets get started in another couple of minutes..
Apr 28 17:32 <chen> just waiting to see if mbarnes can join..
Apr 28 17:35 <mmeeks> mcrha: I was amazed to discover the gtk-label widget we use to render the headings: that was a tad depressing.
Apr 28 17:35 *mmeeks wonders if there is an ETable plan (longer term) - not that it makes a big impact on the UI
Apr 28 17:36 *mmeeks also needs to profile the startup of evo - *much* slower in master than in the bonobo-ified days [ it seems ]
Apr 28 17:36 <mcrha> mmeeks, what do you call much?
Apr 28 17:36 <chen> mcrha, mmeeks, etable vs gtktree long standing debate :)
Apr 28 17:37 <mmeeks> mcrha: well it takes me about five seconds to start with no data, and no I/O
Apr 28 17:37 <mcrha> yeah, last time I tried the gtktree was awfully slow, due to all the events called
Apr 28 17:37 <mcrha> mmeeks, pretty quick, compared with me in the morning ;)
Apr 28 17:38 <mmeeks> mcrha: and it's not as if after five seconds I get everything - I then get an incrementally built display
Apr 28 17:38 *mmeeks hasn't profiled it yet.
Apr 28 17:38 <mcrha> hmm, I do not see anything like that
Apr 28 17:38 <chen> Getting started with the meeting and speaking about the plans,
Apr 28 17:38 <chen> has the list of items in progress
Apr 28 17:39 <chen> and some items which we have listed for the future,
Apr 28 17:39 <chen> we discussed and decided that all the items which gets a owner gets into the release planning page..
Apr 28 17:40 <chen> since some of us were still working on downstream issues, would be updating it in a week or so..
Apr 28 17:40 <abharath> neat
Apr 28 17:40 <chen> we just had the 2.30.1 release this week
Apr 28 17:40 *abharath looks on where is mcrha's work on multiple account setup for MAPI
Apr 28 17:41 <chen> we would need to target the two long standing blockers for the next release..
Apr 28 17:41 <mcrha> in master ;)
Apr 28 17:41 <abharath> mcrha: ;) clever :D
Apr 28 17:41 <chen> Thanks a lot of mcrha for moving all the wiki content from go-evolution to lgo :)
Apr 28 17:41 <chen> claps :)
Apr 28 17:41 *lakhil joins
Apr 28 17:42 <chen> s/of/to
Apr 28 17:42 <mcrha> thanks
Apr 28 17:42 <chen> There are patches getting mounted on to bgo and need some review love :)
Apr 28 17:43 <chen> abharath, and myself would be able to starting getting into review mode from next week with a final rap-up of downstream works..
Apr 28 17:43 *mbarnes (~firstname.lastname@example.org) has joined #evolution-meet
Apr 28 17:43 <lakhil> now a days mcrha is active in patch review as well :-)
Apr 28 17:43 <chen> mcrha, would be great if you can get rid of some during this week.. and u would be already doing it :)
Apr 28 17:43 <chen> mcrha, will get some of ur knocked out from my side too :)
Apr 28 17:44 <mcrha> lakhil, a day, do not expect more, I'll keep it evenly divided between all ;)
Apr 28 17:44 <lakhil> sure
Apr 28 17:44 <chen> we have applied for a couple of talks for GUADEC
Apr 28 17:45 <chen> one on evolution from myself and bharath
Apr 28 17:45 <chen> and lakhil giving on bugzilla..
Apr 28 17:45 <chen> lakhil, would be great if you mention the topic
Apr 28 17:45 <chen> not sure if everyone can access the link atm..
Apr 28 17:46 <mmeeks> chen: we should talk on Evo Express.
Apr 28 17:46 <mmeeks> chen: did the talks for GUADEC get approved yet ?
Apr 28 17:46 <chen> abharath, i guess we need to login into the guadec website to view them ?
Apr 28 17:46 <chen> mmeeks, yup :)
Apr 28 17:46 <abharath> chen: yup
Apr 28 17:46 <lakhil> Topic of talk - Bugzilla, Bug squad and gnome 3
Apr 28 17:46 *mmeeks got totally out of sync with that conference and (as normal) is about six months too late ;-)
Apr 28 17:46 <abharath> mmeeks: :D
Apr 28 17:46 <chen> will prolly send the abstracts over the mail..
Apr 28 17:46 <chen> :)
Apr 28 17:47 <chen> mcrha, hope you will be in GUADEC this time ? :)
Apr 28 17:47 <mcrha> who? what? where?
Apr 28 17:47 <chen> am assuming mbarnes will ? :)
Apr 28 17:47 <mbarnes> chen: hope so. dunno yet
Apr 28 17:47 <chen> lol same questions :)
Apr 28 17:47 <lakhil> chen, or we can go mcrha's home and bring him with us :)
Apr 28 17:48 <chen> mbarnes, would be great if you turn up :)
Apr 28 17:48 <chen> how about muelli ?
Apr 28 17:48 *mcrha recalls a kidnapping conspiracy from the last year
Apr 28 17:48 <abharath> ;)
Apr 28 17:48 <lakhil> hehe
Apr 28 17:48 <chen> mcrha, missing andre atm :)
Apr 28 17:48 *muelli reads backlog
Apr 28 17:48 <mcrha> yeah, The Organizer
Apr 28 17:49 <chen> :)
Apr 28 17:49 <chen> coming back to the future work, we would need to get the dbus issues fixed up
Apr 28 17:49 *andre_ (~email@example.com) has joined #evolution-meet
Apr 28 17:49 *muelli will most likely be at GUADEC :)
Apr 28 17:49 <muelli> Hope to see all you guys there :)
Apr 28 17:50 <chen> will need to get that added into 3.0 planning with a name :)
Apr 28 17:50 <chen> andre_, we were just speaking about you :)
Apr 28 17:50 <andre_> only good things, I hope :-P
Apr 28 17:50 <muelli> oh yeah. Evolution tried to use a naming scheme for releases, no?
Apr 28 17:50 *muelli slighlty remembers island names or so...
Apr 28 17:50 <chen> andre_, yeah about consipiracy to kidnap mcrha to GUADEC
Apr 28 17:51 <chen> :)
Apr 28 17:51 <mbarnes> muelli: yeah, I don't think anybody really noticed or cared
Apr 28 17:51 <andre_> heh
Apr 28 17:51 <mbarnes> it was a neat idea though
Apr 28 17:51 <chen> so more work on planning side and getting some items into the 3.0 page..
Apr 28 17:52 <chen> anything to be discussed before we move on with the project updates ?
Apr 28 17:52 <chen> oops
Apr 28 17:52 <muelli> well. I don't really like codenames. They confuse me with the up-to-dateness, i.e. is "foo" newer or older than "bar"...
Apr 28 17:52 <chen> s/project/startus
Apr 28 17:53 <chen> abharath, updates?
Apr 28 17:53 <abharath> chen: some downstream issues. Today reviewed some patches and committed some. nothing else
Apr 28 17:53 <chen> abharath, thanks
Apr 28 17:53 <chen> andre_, anything to share?
Apr 28 17:54 <chen> I have been primarily working on downstreaming issues, will be getting on with all the imapx bugs filed,
Apr 28 17:54 <chen> and the crashers received from mmeeks and srag :)
Apr 28 17:54 <andre_> nope
Apr 28 17:54 <chen> should be able to wrap-up the last-bits and get on with upstream work..
Apr 28 17:55 <chen> jpunit, updates?
Apr 28 17:55 <jpunit> worked on some bugs related to calendar and will work on mapi ..
Apr 28 17:55 <chen> jpunit, cool
Apr 28 17:55 <chen> jonner, anything to share?
Apr 28 17:55 <chen> kov, anything to share?
Apr 28 17:55 <chen> lakhil, updates?
Apr 28 17:55 <jonner> nope
Apr 28 17:56 *dave_largo (~firstname.lastname@example.org) has joined #evolution-meet
Apr 28 17:56 <chen> hey dave_largo
Apr 28 17:56 <lakhil> chen, random testing on master, sanity of mapi 0.30.1 release, sle testing and bug triaging
Apr 28 17:56 <dave_largo> morn guys
Apr 28 17:56 <chen> dave_largo, we are just going with the status updates :)
Apr 28 17:56 <dave_largo> just back from lunch
Apr 28 17:56 <chen> dave_largo, do you have anything to be discussed or shared ?
Apr 28 17:57 <chen> lakhil, thanks
Apr 28 17:57 <chen> mbarnes, updates?
Apr 28 17:57 <dave_largo> Tomorrow we will be running the new cache system and test it with a big user load
Apr 28 17:57 <mbarnes> I've been bashing Camel's API to a pulp lately
Apr 28 17:57 <mbarnes> as of this week, Camel is now GObject-based
Apr 28 17:57 <mbarnes> still have more redundant CamelObject features to dismantle before 2.31.1
Apr 28 17:57 <mbarnes> that will complete Phase 1 of my evil plot to make Camel more "gnomey"
Apr 28 17:57 <chen> dave_largo, nice, eager to hear the feed-back :)
Apr 28 17:58 <chen> mbarnes, wow nice :) can lakhil have a go at it before merging it into master?
Apr 28 17:58 <dave_largo> chen, you said that you would merge PDF Dnd too
Apr 28 17:58 <mbarnes> chen: it's already in master. he's already caught several typos I think I introduced
Apr 28 17:58 <chen> mbarnes, just concerned about the main-loop events that might be involved..
Apr 28 17:59 <chen> mbarnes, ah cool
Apr 28 17:59 *chen had been running stable for sometime now, will need to get to master :)
Apr 28 17:59 <mbarnes> not really doing anything with the main loop just yet
Apr 28 18:00 <mbarnes> next step is kill CamelArg and CamelObject events and use GObject properties and signals
Apr 28 18:00 <chen> dave_largo, yes i would, have to merge my fix into that and look into the comments from mbarnes..
Apr 28 18:00 <dave_largo> chen, right it was deadlocking when you closed with Pepps original patch
Apr 28 18:00 <mmeeks> mbarnes: it was a shame to see (eg. the tree side-bar sizing) bug fixed in express2 but re-implemented for master/gnome-2-30
Apr 28 18:00 <chen> dave_largo, will get on with upstream work from next week, so it should be getting in soon :)
Apr 28 18:00 <dave_largo> But now it's working great
Apr 28 18:00 *mmeeks would like to see express2 merged to master sooner rather than later; is there any problem with repeat merging ?
Apr 28 18:01 <chen> mmeeks, repeat merging ?
Apr 28 18:02 <mbarnes> mmeeks: I think I'll have time to attempt a merge sometime next week, unless someone beats me to it
Apr 28 18:02 <lakhil> :)
Apr 28 18:02 <chen> mcrha, updates?
Apr 28 18:02 <mcrha> on a review whole yesterday, as mentioned earlier. The rest is on you. Apart of that trying to break ema as much as I would be able, though lakhil is resisting and keeps firing bugs back towards me
Apr 28 18:02 <mbarnes> chen: speaking of which, I'm gonna be on travel for the next two weeks. not totally unreachable but less reachable than normal
Apr 28 18:02 <chen> mcrha, :)
Apr 28 18:03 <chen> mbarnes, fine
Apr 28 18:03 <mmeeks> mbarnes: ah great :-) thanks.
Apr 28 18:03 <chen> mmeeks, anything you would like to discuss or share? :)
Apr 28 18:04 <chen> muelli, anything to share?
Apr 28 18:04 <muelli> chen: nope. Thans.
Apr 28 18:04 <chen> vibha, vibha updates?
Apr 28 18:04 *mmeeks is happy with the express2 progress - thanks.
Apr 28 18:04 <vibha> yeah I worked on Issues for draft in mapi and Printing of Contacts
Apr 28 18:05 <chen> mmeeks, :)
Apr 28 18:05 <chen> vibha, thanks
Apr 28 18:05 <lakhil> preference changes will be great for master :)
Apr 28 18:06 <chen> If there is nothing else to be discussed, Next week then :)
Apr 28 18:07 <chen> thanks everyone