Apr 28 17:29 <mmeeks> mcrha: you know Caolan's "call-catcher" ?

Apr 28 17:29 <mmeeks> mcrha: I wonder - has anyone used it to de-louse Evolution ?

Apr 28 17:30 <mcrha> hi mmeeks, I heard about it, but never used it. Ask Matt, he did some such kind of cleanup recently

Apr 28 17:30 <mmeeks> mcrha: when I did the (C) audit, it turned out there were whole unused modules ;-) e-table widgets & the like.

Apr 28 17:31 <mcrha> sure, ETable is whole unused ;)

Apr 28 17:32 <chen> Lets get started in another couple of minutes..

Apr 28 17:32 <chen> just waiting to see if mbarnes can join..

Apr 28 17:35 <mmeeks> mcrha: I was amazed to discover the gtk-label widget we use to render the headings: that was a tad depressing.

Apr 28 17:35 *mmeeks wonders if there is an ETable plan (longer term) - not that it makes a big impact on the UI

Apr 28 17:36 *mmeeks also needs to profile the startup of evo - *much* slower in master than in the bonobo-ified days [ it seems ]

Apr 28 17:36 <mcrha> mmeeks, what do you call much?

Apr 28 17:36 <chen> mcrha, mmeeks, etable vs gtktree long standing debate :)

Apr 28 17:37 <mmeeks> mcrha: well it takes me about five seconds to start with no data, and no I/O

Apr 28 17:37 <mcrha> yeah, last time I tried the gtktree was awfully slow, due to all the events called

Apr 28 17:37 <mcrha> mmeeks, pretty quick, compared with me in the morning ;)

Apr 28 17:38 <mmeeks> mcrha: and it's not as if after five seconds I get everything - I then get an incrementally built display

Apr 28 17:38 *mmeeks hasn't profiled it yet.

Apr 28 17:38 <mcrha> hmm, I do not see anything like that

Apr 28 17:38 <chen> Getting started with the meeting and speaking about the plans,

Apr 28 17:38 <chen> http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Planning30

Apr 28 17:38 <chen> has the list of items in progress

Apr 28 17:39 <chen> and some items which we have listed for the future,

Apr 28 17:39 <chen> http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/PlanningFuture

Apr 28 17:39 <chen> we discussed and decided that all the items which gets a owner gets into the release planning page..

Apr 28 17:40 <chen> since some of us were still working on downstream issues, would be updating it in a week or so..

Apr 28 17:40 <abharath> neat

Apr 28 17:40 <chen> we just had the 2.30.1 release this week

Apr 28 17:40 *abharath looks on where is mcrha's work on multiple account setup for MAPI

Apr 28 17:41 <chen> we would need to target the two long standing blockers for the next release..

Apr 28 17:41 <mcrha> in master ;)

Apr 28 17:41 <abharath> mcrha: ;) clever :D

Apr 28 17:41 <chen> Thanks a lot of mcrha for moving all the wiki content from go-evolution to lgo :)

Apr 28 17:41 <chen> claps :)

Apr 28 17:41 *lakhil joins

Apr 28 17:42 <chen> s/of/to

Apr 28 17:42 <mcrha> thanks

Apr 28 17:42 <chen> There are patches getting mounted on to bgo and need some review love :)

Apr 28 17:43 <chen> abharath, and myself would be able to starting getting into review mode from next week with a final rap-up of downstream works..

Apr 28 17:43 *mbarnes (~mbarnes@c-24-147-161-46.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #evolution-meet

Apr 28 17:43 <lakhil> now a days mcrha is active in patch review as well :-)

Apr 28 17:43 <chen> mcrha, would be great if you can get rid of some during this week.. and u would be already doing it :)

Apr 28 17:43 <chen> mcrha, will get some of ur knocked out from my side too :)

Apr 28 17:44 <mcrha> lakhil,  a day, do not expect more, I'll keep it evenly divided between all ;)

Apr 28 17:44 <lakhil> sure

Apr 28 17:44 <chen> we have applied for a couple of talks for GUADEC

Apr 28 17:45 <chen> one on evolution from myself and bharath

Apr 28 17:45 <chen> and lakhil giving on bugzilla..

Apr 28 17:45 <chen> lakhil, would be great if you mention the topic

Apr 28 17:45 <chen> not sure if everyone can access the link atm..

Apr 28 17:46 <mmeeks> chen: we should talk on Evo Express.

Apr 28 17:46 <mmeeks> chen: did the talks for GUADEC get approved yet ?

Apr 28 17:46 <chen> abharath, i guess we need to login into the guadec website to view them ?

Apr 28 17:46 <chen> mmeeks, yup :)

Apr 28 17:46 <abharath> chen: yup

Apr 28 17:46 <lakhil> Topic of talk - Bugzilla, Bug squad and gnome 3

Apr 28 17:46 *mmeeks got totally out of sync with that conference and (as normal) is about six months too late ;-)

Apr 28 17:46 <abharath> mmeeks: :D

Apr 28 17:46 <chen> will prolly send the abstracts over the mail..

Apr 28 17:46 <chen> :)

Apr 28 17:47 <chen> mcrha, hope you will  be in GUADEC this time ? :)

Apr 28 17:47 <mcrha> who? what? where?

Apr 28 17:47 <chen> am assuming mbarnes will ? :)

Apr 28 17:47 <mbarnes> chen: hope so.  dunno yet

Apr 28 17:47 <chen> lol same questions :)

Apr 28 17:47 <lakhil> chen, or we can go mcrha's home and bring him with us :)

Apr 28 17:48 <chen> mbarnes, would be great if you turn up :)

Apr 28 17:48 <chen> how about muelli ?

Apr 28 17:48 *mcrha recalls a kidnapping conspiracy from the last year

Apr 28 17:48 <abharath> ;)

Apr 28 17:48 <lakhil> hehe

Apr 28 17:48 <chen> mcrha, missing andre atm :)

Apr 28 17:48 *muelli reads backlog

Apr 28 17:48 <mcrha> yeah, The Organizer

Apr 28 17:49 <chen> :)

Apr 28 17:49 <chen> coming back to the future work, we would need to get the dbus issues fixed up

Apr 28 17:49 *andre_ (~andre@g1.blanicka25.net) has joined #evolution-meet

Apr 28 17:49 *muelli will most likely be at GUADEC :)

Apr 28 17:49 <muelli> Hope to see all you guys there :)

Apr 28 17:50 <chen> will need to get that added into 3.0 planning with a name :)

Apr 28 17:50 <chen> andre_, we were just speaking about you :)

Apr 28 17:50 <andre_> only good things, I hope :-P

Apr 28 17:50 <muelli> oh yeah. Evolution tried to use a naming scheme for releases, no?

Apr 28 17:50 *muelli slighlty remembers island names or so...

Apr 28 17:50 <chen> andre_, yeah about consipiracy to kidnap mcrha to GUADEC

Apr 28 17:51 <chen> :)

Apr 28 17:51 <mbarnes> muelli: yeah, I don't think anybody really noticed or cared

Apr 28 17:51 <andre_> heh

Apr 28 17:51 <mbarnes> it was a neat idea though

Apr 28 17:51 <chen> so more work on planning side and getting some items into the 3.0 page..

Apr 28 17:52 <chen> anything to be discussed before we move on with the project updates ?

Apr 28 17:52 <chen> oops

Apr 28 17:52 <muelli> well. I don't really like codenames. They confuse me with the up-to-dateness, i.e. is "foo" newer or older than "bar"...

Apr 28 17:52 <chen> s/project/startus

Apr 28 17:53 <chen> abharath, updates?

Apr 28 17:53 <abharath> chen: some downstream issues. Today reviewed some patches and committed some. nothing else

Apr 28 17:53 <chen> abharath, thanks

Apr 28 17:53 <chen> andre_, anything to share?

Apr 28 17:54 <chen> I have been primarily working on downstreaming issues, will be getting on with all the imapx bugs filed,

Apr 28 17:54 <chen> and the crashers received from mmeeks and srag :)

Apr 28 17:54 <andre_> nope

Apr 28 17:54 <chen> should be able to wrap-up the last-bits and get on with upstream work..

Apr 28 17:55 <chen> jpunit, updates?

Apr 28 17:55 <jpunit> worked on some bugs related to calendar and will work on mapi ..

Apr 28 17:55 <chen> jpunit, cool

Apr 28 17:55 <chen> jonner, anything to share?

Apr 28 17:55 <chen> kov, anything to share?

Apr 28 17:55 <chen> lakhil, updates?

Apr 28 17:55 <jonner> nope

Apr 28 17:56 *dave_largo (~drichard@207.22.154.8) has joined #evolution-meet

Apr 28 17:56 <chen> hey dave_largo

Apr 28 17:56 <lakhil> chen, random testing on master, sanity of mapi 0.30.1 release, sle testing and bug triaging

Apr 28 17:56 <dave_largo> morn guys

Apr 28 17:56 <chen> dave_largo, we are just going with the status updates :)

Apr 28 17:56 <dave_largo> just back from lunch

Apr 28 17:56 <chen> dave_largo, do you have anything to be discussed or shared ?

Apr 28 17:57 <chen> lakhil, thanks

Apr 28 17:57 <chen> mbarnes, updates?

Apr 28 17:57 <dave_largo> Tomorrow we will be running the new cache system and test it with a big user load

Apr 28 17:57 <mbarnes> I've been bashing Camel's API to a pulp lately

Apr 28 17:57 <mbarnes> as of this week, Camel is now GObject-based

Apr 28 17:57 <mbarnes> still have more redundant CamelObject features to dismantle before 2.31.1

Apr 28 17:57 <mbarnes> that will complete Phase 1 of my evil plot to make Camel more "gnomey"

Apr 28 17:57 <chen> dave_largo, nice, eager to hear the feed-back :)

Apr 28 17:58 <chen> mbarnes, wow nice :) can lakhil have a go at it before merging it into master?

Apr 28 17:58 <dave_largo> chen, you said that you would merge PDF Dnd too

Apr 28 17:58 <mbarnes> chen: it's already in master.  he's already caught several typos I think I introduced

Apr 28 17:58 <chen> mbarnes, just concerned about the main-loop events that might be involved..

Apr 28 17:59 <chen> mbarnes, ah cool

Apr 28 17:59 *chen had been running stable for sometime now, will need to get to master :)

Apr 28 17:59 <mbarnes> not really doing anything with the main loop just yet

Apr 28 18:00 <mbarnes> next step is kill CamelArg and CamelObject events and use GObject properties and signals

Apr 28 18:00 <chen> dave_largo, yes i would, have to merge my fix into that and look into the comments from mbarnes..

Apr 28 18:00 <dave_largo> chen, right it was deadlocking when you closed with Pepps original patch

Apr 28 18:00 <mmeeks> mbarnes: it was a shame to see (eg. the tree side-bar sizing) bug fixed in express2 but re-implemented for master/gnome-2-30

Apr 28 18:00 <chen> dave_largo, will get on with upstream work from next week, so it should be getting in soon :)

Apr 28 18:00 <dave_largo> But now it's working great

Apr 28 18:00 *mmeeks would like to see express2 merged to master sooner rather than later; is there any problem with repeat merging ?

Apr 28 18:01 <chen> mmeeks, repeat merging ?

Apr 28 18:02 <mbarnes> mmeeks: I think I'll have time to attempt a merge sometime next week, unless someone beats me to it

Apr 28 18:02 <lakhil> :)

Apr 28 18:02 <chen> mcrha, updates?

Apr 28 18:02 <mcrha> on a review whole yesterday, as mentioned earlier. The rest is on you. Apart of that trying to break ema as much as I would be able, though lakhil is resisting and keeps firing bugs back towards me

Apr 28 18:02 <mbarnes> chen: speaking of which, I'm gonna be on travel for the next two weeks.  not totally unreachable but less reachable than normal

Apr 28 18:02 <chen> mcrha, :)

Apr 28 18:03 <chen> mbarnes, fine

Apr 28 18:03 <mmeeks> mbarnes: ah great :-) thanks.

Apr 28 18:03 <chen> mmeeks, anything you would like to discuss or share? :)

Apr 28 18:04 <chen> muelli, anything to share?

Apr 28 18:04 <muelli> chen: nope. Thans.

Apr 28 18:04 <chen> vibha, vibha updates?

Apr 28 18:04 *mmeeks is happy with the express2 progress - thanks.

Apr 28 18:04 <vibha> yeah I worked on Issues for draft in mapi and Printing of Contacts

Apr 28 18:05 <chen> mmeeks, :)

Apr 28 18:05 <chen> vibha, thanks

Apr 28 18:05 <lakhil> preference changes will be great for master :)

Apr 28 18:06 <chen> If there is nothing else to be discussed, Next week then :)

Apr 28 18:07 <chen> thanks everyone