May 19 11:33 <chen> Lets get started then..

May 19 11:33 <chen> To go with the project updates to start with,

May 19 11:34 <chen> 2.31.2 release is coming up on may 24. It would be really good if we can remove some of the long standing patches reviewed and off the list and absorb the ones which would be helpful for the release.. Going further abharath would be taking

May 19 11:34 <chen> the responsibility for reviewing the contacts component patches..

May 19 11:34 <chen> and going with the important announcement now..

May 19 11:35 <chen> am happy to announce that mcrha and abharath have stepped up to take the maintainership for evolution-mapi !! jony would be contributing to evolution mostly in his free time available..

May 19 11:35 <chen> congrats mcrha and abharath :) thanks too!!

May 19 11:35 <Fridrich> congrats

May 19 11:35 <mbarnes> yay!!

May 19 11:36 *seb128 (~seb128@ANancy-258-1-117-253.w90-56.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #evolution-meet

May 19 11:36 <chen> jony was not able to join us today, but am sure he would for the next meeting..

May 19 11:36 <mcrha> yay yay, right :)

May 19 11:36 <liam_> Congrats... :-)

May 19 11:36 <abharath> Thanks all

May 19 11:36 <chen> going with the guadec update,

May 19 11:37 <chen> http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/2010/Schedule/Main - has the tentative schedule and evolution talk appears on the first day..

May 19 11:37 <chen> so make sure you are there on the first day :)

May 19 11:38 <chen> Have just updated one of the tasks (imap multiple connections)  with an expected milestone to the Evolution 3.0 plan, we would be updating more tasks there by end of this week or early next week with the respective owners for the same..

May 19 11:38 <chen> checkout - http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Planning30

May 19 11:38 <chen> we would be tracking this during our meetings to make sure they get in on the expected milestones..

May 19 11:39 <chen> Going further we would have the monthly community meetings every third Wednesday, the next one on June 16h..

May 19 11:39 <chen> we just wanted to have a smaller frequency so that we could share more data and have some agenda set for the meetings..

May 19 11:40 *Fridrich is running to pick the kids

May 19 11:40 <chen> We will put something like http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/ on the meeting times and agendas hence forth..

May 19 11:40 <abharath> hmmm ok

May 19 11:41 <chen> so thats what is going on and if anyone has any queries go on..

May 19 11:41 <chen> before we start on the status updates..

May 19 11:41 <chen> to update from my side,

May 19 11:42 <chen> have been primarily involved in gathering all the requirements for evolution 3.0 and getting a buy in from the management for allocating resources on them..

May 19 11:42 <chen> we have finalized on the tasks and would be updating the planning wiki by early next week with the assigned owners..

May 19 11:43 <chen> have started on implementing multiple connections for imap..

May 19 11:43 <chen> thats it from my side.

May 19 11:43 <chen> abharath, updates?

May 19 11:43 <abharath> chen: last week been working majorly on FreeBusy for MAPI

May 19 11:43 <abharath> some issues to fix on the openchange side. will be looking at them in more detail

May 19 11:43 <chen> abharath, howz it coming up ?

May 19 11:44 <chen> abharath, would be great if you can update the planning wiki with the information..

May 19 11:44 <abharath> chen: so far good. needs some things fixed on the openchange side

May 19 11:44 <chen> abharath, fine

May 19 11:44 <abharath> chen: and been planning for MAPI. I'll talk with mcrha and update the planning page accordingly

May 19 11:44 <chen> andre, anything to share?

May 19 11:44 <andre> nope

May 19 11:44 <chen> abharath, that would be great!!

May 19 11:44 <chen> Fridrich, are you back ? :)

May 19 11:45 <chen> hggdh, anything to share?

May 19 11:45 <abharath> chen: his kids wouldn't allow him to be back this early ;)

May 19 11:45 <chen> abharath, yeah i see it :)

May 19 11:45 <chen> jjardon, anything to share?

May 19 11:46 <chen> jonner, anything to share?

May 19 11:46 <chen> jpunit, updates?

May 19 11:46 <hggdh> evo 2.30 has already been added to Maverick (Ubuntu+1)

May 19 11:46 <chen> hggdh, wow nice :)

May 19 11:46 <chen> hggdh, howz the response from the users ?

May 19 11:47 <jpunit> chen: Working on Public Calendar/Addressbook folder subscription for mapi

May 19 11:47 <chen> kov, anything to share?

May 19 11:47 <chen> jpunit, cool..

May 19 11:47 <hggdh> it is brand new there, and we are just starting the cycle. I would expect most crazy testers to wait at least another 3 weeks before taking the plunge to Maverick

May 19 11:48 <chen> jpunit, i hope you can update the planning page later co-ordinating with abharath and mcrha

May 19 11:48 <chen> hggdh, prolly then we would know something during our next meeting :)

May 19 11:48 <chen> liam_, anything to share?

May 19 11:48 <jjardon> hggdh, nice, less deprecated dependencies on Ubuntu

May 19 11:49 <chen> mbarnes, updates?

May 19 11:49 <mbarnes> posted a status update about my Camel API upgrades and plans going forward

May 19 11:49 <mbarnes> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2010-May/msg00000.html

May 19 11:49 <mbarnes> otherwise, just trying to catch up on bugs after a two week vacation

May 19 11:49 <jpunit> chen: yes I will do so

May 19 11:49 <chen> mbarnes, nice!! would be great if we can get some of the mailer patches on bugzilla for 2.31.2 release..

May 19 11:50 <chen> mcrha, updates?

May 19 11:50 <chen> mbarnes, just wondering who would be the best person for the patches on accessibility..

May 19 11:50 <mcrha> from the last things, just searching in subscription dialog and preview before import from command line

May 19 11:50 <chen> they have been lying there for quite sometime

May 19 11:50 <liam_> hm, I'm currently working in free-time on foocanvas... However, as I don't have much knowledge, it takes for me much time. First steps are done: libart_lgpl is killed off, and currently trying to do the rest... the basic e-canvas / e-text stuff in my private repository is already fixed, left to do are events and calendar

May 19 11:50 <mcrha> apart of that on mapi, some crashers, some semi-random bugs

May 19 11:51 <chen> liam_, thats simply awesome!!

May 19 11:51 <chen> liam_, plz let us know if you need help in any of those..

May 19 11:52 <mbarnes> chen: hmm, I have no idea.  maybe we could post a call for help on gnome-accessibility-devel

May 19 11:52 <chen> mcrha, cool

May 19 11:52 <mcrha> one crsher is strange, in the em_snoop_mime_type, mostly on debian, if I can tell, they reported that --enable-large filecrashes for them, but I couldn't reproduce it myself. The proposed patch doesn't make much sense, and valgrind didn't show much. would be good to have someone look on it

May 19 11:52 *mcrha is looking for a bug number

May 19 11:52 <chen> mbarnes, sure thats a good idea

May 19 11:52 <liam_> I think I'll sync up with foocanvas branch on the weekend... Then maybe someone can take a look at it

May 19 11:53 <chen> liam_, sure

May 19 11:53 <mcrha> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=612082

May 19 11:53 *chen looks at the bug

May 19 11:53 <mbarnes> liam_: let me know when you sync and I can review it

May 19 11:53 <mcrha> chen, I also started with reviews, even before you mentioned it here.

May 19 11:53 <chen> muelli, any updates?

May 19 11:53 <chen> mcrha, nice :)

May 19 11:53 <mcrha> and I endup with "sha1 only as signature" bug, where patches were strange, so I'm creating mine version right now. near the finish, at the moment

May 19 11:53 <muelli> chen: nope

May 19 11:54 <chen> rodrigo, anything to share?

May 19 11:54 <mcrha> and that's all from my side, looking forward on abharath ;)

May 19 11:54 <chen> mcrha, will go through it after the meeting..

May 19 11:54 <chen> mcrha, abharath would be great if you both can apply for the shell account

May 19 11:54 <abharath> chen: sure I will soon

May 19 11:54 <mcrha> right

May 19 11:54 <chen> seb128, anything to share?

May 19 11:55 <abharath> mcrha: and waiting for?

May 19 11:55 <seb128> not really out of that the new evolution version is in ubuntu now as hggdh said before

May 19 11:55 <mcrha> abharath, just "a little" chat with you, as you also mentioned earlier

May 19 11:55 <rodrigo> chen, no, just interested about what's going on because of my work on evolution-couchdb, so maybe you want an update on it?

May 19 11:55 <chen> seb128, fine

May 19 11:55 <abharath> mcrha: hehe ok :)

May 19 11:56 <chen> rodrigo, sure, why not :)

May 19 11:56 <mbarnes> rodrigo: I'm interested

May 19 11:56 <chen> vibs, updates?

May 19 11:56 <rodrigo> chen, ok then: it's now "ported" to evo 2.30 and beyond (didn't support it for last Ubuntu cycle because they didn't move to evo 2.30)

May 19 11:56 *dave_largo (~drichard@207.22.154.8) has joined #evolution-meet

May 19 11:56 <chen> hey dave_largo

May 19 11:56 <rodrigo> and a student is adding support for tasks and calendars, which should be merged soon

May 19 11:57 <vibs> chen: yeah ... Fixed most of the issues in Printing of Contacts and fixed up some of the issues in groupwise

May 19 11:57 <Fridrich> chen: I am back

May 19 11:57 <dave_largo> chen, don't leave until we chat :)

May 19 11:57 <chen> Fridrich, share your updates with us :)

May 19 11:57 <chen> dave_largo, sure :)

May 19 11:57 <chen> dave_largo, anything to share?

May 19 11:58 <chen> rodrigo, thanks!

May 19 11:58 <dave_largo> Just that hopefully the backtraces I'm sending will help the downstream version

May 19 11:58 <chen> vibs, nice

May 19 11:58 <Fridrich> chen: we are stable on windows, we can ship and earn big money

May 19 11:58 <chen> dave_largo, sure, we can discuss on those after the meeting :)

May 19 11:58 <Fridrich> chen: just kidding, but it is doing well

May 19 11:58 <chen> Fridrich, lol

May 19 11:59 <chen> Fridrich, windows builds are living because of you and tml, thanks a lot for the efforts there :)

May 19 11:59 <Fridrich> chen: there are some things

May 19 12:00 <chen> anything else from anyone?

May 19 12:00 <Fridrich> chen: a bit fragile dbus and only master works

May 19 12:00 *dave_largo just checked for Evolution Express for iPhone (tm) on the App store.

May 19 12:00 <chen> Fridrich, yup, we will be starting to work on the dbus issues from next week

May 19 12:00 <Fridrich> chen: an annoying bug in gio that prevents us from opening external uris

May 19 12:00 <mbarnes> dave_largo: yeah, that'll be the day

May 19 12:00 <chen> Fridrich, will update the planning wiki with more information next week..

May 19 12:01 <Fridrich> ok

May 19 12:01 <dave_largo> :P

May 19 12:01 <Fridrich> but apart that, if the speed improves, evo can be used as mail client

May 19 12:01 <Fridrich> chen: the integration is half-cooked but working

May 19 12:01 <chen> Fridrich, speed with?

May 19 12:01 <chen> Fridrich, you mean eds-dbus?

May 19 12:01 <Fridrich> chen: evo is not the fastest app on windows

May 19 12:01 <chen> ah ok

May 19 12:02 <Fridrich> chen: it takes some time to come up compared to thunderbird

May 19 12:02 <chen> Fridrich, heard that mmeeks was working on improving startup speed for evolution

May 19 12:02 <chen> Fridrich, we would get more updates if we could catch you with him..

May 19 12:03 *mbarnes is curious what's taking so long on startup

May 19 12:03 <Fridrich> mbarnes: spawn stuff

May 19 12:03 <Fridrich> mbarnes: gconfd-2 dbus-daemon, and so on

May 19 12:03 <Fridrich> I guess some timeouts

May 19 12:03 <mbarnes> I see, stuff that would ordinarily be running already

May 19 12:04 <abharath> Fridrich: so if you quit, then the second start would be faster I guess?

May 19 12:05 <abharath> ofcourse not killing all the processes ;)

May 19 12:05 <Fridrich> mbarnes: but still having enough non-working things to fix before this speed is on my list

May 19 12:05 <Fridrich> abharath: kind of

May 19 12:05 <Fridrich> abharath: but these are wild guesses I don't have hard data

May 19 12:06 <dave_largo> abharath: Maybe you can meet with chen and I when we are done here

May 19 12:06 <abharath> Fridrich: I have seen them, so I know that's the case :)

May 19 12:06 <chen> Fridrich, is it just slow on windows ?

May 19 12:06 <chen> Fridrich, wondering if it would be related to what michael was pointing as he does not use windows builds..

May 19 12:07 <dave_largo> We probably almost simulate the Windows runtime envrionment here, because we start all of those background processes each time they launch Evolution

May 19 12:07 *abharath is scared of dave_largo. This one sounded like a warning ;)

May 19 12:07 <Fridrich> ok, /me bathing kids, that is all from me :)

May 19 12:07 <chen> probably we can discuss further on this later..

May 19 12:07 <rodrigo> and bonobo-activation, or are you not using bonobo for each component anymore?

May 19 12:08 <dave_largo> Fridrich: keyring daemon is optional, I moved the binary to keep it from running here

May 19 12:08 <chen> rodrigo, its killed completely from evolution :)

May 19 12:08 <rodrigo> chen, ah, cool, missed that :) so the components how are they loaded? g_module's?

May 19 12:08 <abharath> so chen, Fridrich also started working on installers for windows on the Build Service. so if all goes well, he'll end up making everyone more lazy and automate the whole process :)

May 19 12:08 <chen> rodrigo, yes gmodules

May 19 12:09 <chen> abharath, a lot better :)

May 19 12:09 <dave_largo> Fridrich: Evolution stores files with passwords if keyring can't be found, might be a little faster

May 19 12:09 <mbarnes> Fridrich: I think the plan for GSettings on Windows is to integrate with the registry, so that will be one less process

May 19 12:10 <chen> dave_largo, mbarnes you need to wait for a while for Fridrich to be back :)

May 19 12:10 <chen> Next meeting on June 16th then, thanks everyone!!

May 19 12:11 <chen> we should get more things knocked by then :)