IRC Team Meeting - January 18, 2012

Jan 18 10:32 <chen> Lets get started!!

Jan 18 10:33 <chen> its 2012!! and we are still alive :)

Jan 18 10:33 <lakhil> and rocking !!

Jan 18 10:33 <xtian> \o/

Jan 18 10:33 <chen> starting with project updates,

Jan 18 10:34 <chen> we had two releases 3.3.4 and a stable release 3.2.3 this month..

Jan 18 10:34 <chen> From next freezes will start to take over in phases

Jan 18 10:34 <andre_> "From next freezes"?

Jan 18 10:34 *chen_ has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds)

Jan 18 10:35 <chen> *next month..

Jan 18 10:35 <chen> sorry

Jan 18 10:35 <andre_> ah.

Jan 18 10:35 <chen> if you do have features that needs to get in, make sure to get the changes faster..

Jan 18 10:36 <chen> mbarnes, mcrha and myself have been having a small discussion on folder management for calendar/address-book,

Jan 18 10:36 <chen> will be elaborating on it a little later once am clear on the interfaces. i was not very much sure to post it to e-h before making sure,

Jan 18 10:37 <chen> am clear and it fits with the account-management changes that mbarnes is doing..

Jan 18 10:37 <chen> anyone have anything to discuss before we move on to individual updates?

Jan 18 10:38 <chen> updates from myside,

Jan 18 10:38 <xtian> chen: any idea when these changes are going to start/hit code?

Jan 18 10:41 <lakhil> chen got disconnected, network connection is unreliable for him today

Jan 18 10:41 <lakhil> xtian, you can ask him your query when he comes back

Jan 18 10:41 <mbarnes> xtian: for account-management changes I'm targeting 3.5.1 now

Jan 18 10:42 *chen_ (~chen@117.192.156.31) has joined #evolution-meet

Jan 18 10:42 <xtian> mbarnes: okay, so chens changes may be well in 3.5 as well

Jan 18 10:42 <chen_> <chen> next month if things go well

Jan 18 10:42 <chen_> <chen> had been with sled bugs mostly

Jan 18 10:42 <chen_> <chen> will be getting on with my pending patch reviews..

Jan 18 10:42 *chen_ lets lakhil take over

Jan 18 10:42 <xtian> chen: thanks

Jan 18 10:43 <andre_> [Reminder: Please update https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Planning34 (and/or create Planning36) in case that things work out/don't work out]

Jan 18 10:43 <chen_> am sorry, having a night mare with my internet connection :(

Jan 18 10:43 <lakhil> chen, so your  folder management for calendar/address-book changes will be for mostly 3.5.x ? xtian raised a query before

Jan 18 10:43 <chen_> andre_, sure

Jan 18 10:44 <chen_> xtian, it will be for 3.4

Jan 18 10:44 <xtian> chen_: ah well, ok. just curious

Jan 18 10:44 <chen_> xtian, but the interface might require a slight change once mbarnes gets the account-mgmt changes..

Jan 18 10:45 <lakhil> we will go around the room for individual updates now

Jan 18 10:45 <mcrha> one thing for chen_

Jan 18 10:46 <chen_> mcrha, yup

Jan 18 10:46 <mcrha> chen_, do you think there will be enough time for a discussion on your enhancement? and definitely to adapt "all" around?

Jan 18 10:46 *mcrha thinks that doing "core" changes just before freezes is not a good step

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Jan 18 10:47 <lakhil> andre_, anything to share ? you are the first one to test webkit branch, i guess :)

Jan 18 10:47 <andre_> Hah. Just slacking plus waiting for dvratil to fix his webkit branch bug reports before I continue testing ;-)

Jan 18 10:48 <andre_> or "my" reports that are now his :P

Jan 18 10:48 <dvratil> andre_: thanks for the reports btw :)

Jan 18 10:48 <andre_> you're very welcome

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Jan 18 10:48 <lakhil> cool

Jan 18 10:48 <lakhil> dave_largo, anything to share ?

Jan 18 10:48 *chen__ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

Jan 18 10:49 <lakhil> dvratil, what's the news from webkit branch ?

Jan 18 10:49 <lakhil> mcrha, chen got disconnected, please email him your concern, he will reply back

Jan 18 10:49 <dvratil> I've been trying to work around some issues with webkit + fix some of the andre_ 's reports

Jan 18 10:50 <dvratil> I think I'll have to delay it for 3.5.1 :(

Jan 18 10:50 <mcrha> lakhil, sure, I'll ping him tomorrow, or he me, depends who will notice first :)

Jan 18 10:50 <lakhil> oh

Jan 18 10:50 <dvratil> there are still too many issues

Jan 18 10:50 <lakhil> mcrha, i will make sure you both ping each other :D

Jan 18 10:50 <mcrha> hehe

Jan 18 10:51 <lakhil> dvratil, you might want to update 3.4 plan as pointed out by andre_  

Jan 18 10:51 <dvratil> lakhil: will do

Jan 18 10:51 <lakhil> dvratil, thanks

Jan 18 10:52 <lakhil> dwmw2_gone, anything to share ?

Jan 18 10:52 <lakhil> kov, anything to share ?

Jan 18 10:53 <lakhil> update from my side - i am mostly on downstream work

Jan 18 10:53 <lakhil> and little bit on upstream bugzilla

Jan 18 10:53 <lakhil> mbarnes, anything to share ?

Jan 18 10:54 <mbarnes> I'm in the process of merging srag's email-factory-3-4 branch for evolution

Jan 18 10:54 <mbarnes> which just partitions the mailer into a couple new libraries bound for EDS

Jan 18 10:54 <mbarnes> so it's just some code rearrangement for now -- should be low-risk

Jan 18 10:54 <mbarnes> on the account-mgmt front:

Jan 18 10:54 <mbarnes> it's already getting too late in the 3.3 cycle, so I'm targeting 3.5 now

Jan 18 10:54 <mbarnes> but I'd like to branch for 3.4 early like we did for the kill-bonobo branches

Jan 18 10:54 <mbarnes> to have some extra time to test the changes and polish up the APIs

Jan 18 10:54 <mbarnes> (assuming I have the thing ready in time to branch early)

Jan 18 10:54 <mbarnes> I'm hacking up the account editor atm, then diving into groupwise and exchange

Jan 18 10:54 <vibs> past month, I was fixing bugs upstream  for ews and groupwise connector.

Jan 18 10:55 <lakhil> mbarnes, thanks

Jan 18 10:55 <lakhil> mcrha, update ?

Jan 18 10:55 <vibs> sorry

Jan 18 10:55 <mcrha> I had most fun with evo-mapi, when implementing "Subscribe to other user's folder". It's working nicely, at least according to my tests. Now on public folders, and then folder permissions

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Jan 18 10:56 *lakhil will have to dive in mapi now before it gets too late :)

Jan 18 10:56 <mcrha> I wanted aslo Out of office feature, but OpenCHange is not ready yet. Hopefully will not result into the same with Permissions

Jan 18 10:56 <lakhil> thanks mcrha , looks like mapi will be feature compatible with owa in 3.4

Jan 18 10:57 <mcrha> not fully, I'm afraid, but a lit closer

Jan 18 10:57 <mcrha> *a bit

Jan 18 10:57 <lakhil> ok

Jan 18 10:57 <lakhil> vibs, anything more to share ?

Jan 18 10:58 <vibs> lakhil: yes and rest time spent on downstream bugs for dave_largo

Jan 18 10:58 <mbarnes> mcrha: should we retire evolution-exchange once mapi gets feature parity with it, you think?

Jan 18 10:58 <vibs> and sled

Jan 18 10:58 <mcrha> mbarnes, eex is still quicker than ema, unfortunately

Jan 18 10:59 <mcrha> I believe it has its power with 2003 servers

Jan 18 10:59 <lakhil> mbarnes, we haven't tested mapi with Exchange 2003 server, so not a clear picture about compatibility

Jan 18 10:59 <mbarnes> so we're dragging eex along for the foreseeable future then, eh?

Jan 18 11:00 <lakhil> until people move to Exchange 2007/2010 server, i guess

Jan 18 11:00 <mbarnes> okay

Jan 18 11:00 *mbarnes just curious

Jan 18 11:00 <lakhil> xtian, anything to share ?

Jan 18 11:00 <xtian> got imapx subclassable for evolution-kolab now, existing kolab extensions from 2.30 should be easier to implant now

Jan 18 11:01 <xtian> (subclassable imapx is in evo-kolab repo as local dupe, may be of upstream interest later on)

Jan 18 11:01 <xtian> ported kolab2 provider now working, but without kolab extensions yet

Jan 18 11:02 <lakhil> anything else before we end the meeting ?

Jan 18 11:02 <lakhil> xtian, thanks

Jan 18 11:02 <xtian> lakhil: sure.

Jan 18 11:02 <lakhil> thanks everyone, see you next month

Jan 18 11:02 <lakhil> bye

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